Iraq.................

I suffered a very distressing experience once in Lidl, of all places - I was walking around putting stuff in my trolley, and there was a Muslim man in full robes, followed by four women, also going round the shop. Now I normally dress quite modestly with covered knees and elbows, no cleavage etc and I was wearing just a normal dress and flat shoes as it was my lunch hour from work.

Well, this Muslim man came up to me in an aisle, eyed me up and down in a very leering manner, then started smacking his lips! This is in a Lidl in Stirling!

I felt filthy, dropped the basket, fled the shop and went straight back to work and showered. I felt violated. I still feel creepy even thinking about it.

Iris wrote:I suffered a very distressing experience once in Lidl, of all places - I was walking around putting stuff in my trolley, and there was a Muslim man in full robes, followed by four women, also going round the shop.  Now I normally dress quite modestly with covered knees and elbows, no cleavage etc and I was wearing just a normal dress and flat shoes as it was my lunch hour from work.  

Well, this Muslim man came up to me in an aisle, eyed me up and down in a very leering manner, then started smacking his lips!  This is in a Lidl in Stirling!  

I felt filthy, dropped the basket, fled the shop and went straight back to work and showered.  I felt violated.  I still feel creepy even thinking about it.

Good afternoon Iris

Yes, that is quite normal by the standards of at least some of them. f course most Saudis certainly are well aware that all western women are shall we say ladies of the night. it's only a matter of finding the price. I can well understand you feeling violated, and ashamed, although it is he not you, who should feel like that.

I was working a double in the Power station near Jeddah one day, I rang my wife to tell her I couldn't take her to the shopping mall as planned, so she got the bus in. I told her to at all times remain in actual sight of at least one of the other passengers.

She got back before me, and told me about how this Filipino lad serving in an ice cream parlour had come up to her and told her his boss would like to have a word with her. This Saudi (as you say in full canonicals) asked her name who I worked fro, and did she like Saudi Arabia etc. etc. He offered her a lift back to Medical city which of course she refused. One of the nurses came up to see if everything was OK, and he sloped off. My wife said the strangest thing was he was holding a gold belcher chain, and he kept fingering it as they do with their worry beads. I laughed, and said she was a silly wench, and should have stuck out for two belcher chains. What do you mean? she aske and then the penny dropped. he wasn't was he? I said I would be very surprised if he wasn't sweetheart. Of course had she accepted the lift, who knows? So yours is not an isolated case Iris, many of them are preoccupied with one thing. My wife always felt the same as you.

Another concern is what was he doing with four of them in tow? This is supposed to be a monogamous country. If he wants four wives and can abide by the Qu'ran in his treatment of all of them, then let him go somewhere where that is acceptable.

My objection I believe is the same as yours. That some at least come here not with the objective of integrating, but to turn Britain into a Muslim country

Iris wrote:I suffered a very distressing experience once in Lidl, of all places - I was walking around putting stuff in my trolley, and there was a Muslim man in full robes, followed by four women, also going round the shop.  Now I normally dress quite modestly with covered knees and elbows, no cleavage etc and I was wearing just a normal dress and flat shoes as it was my lunch hour from work.  

Well, this Muslim man came up to me in an aisle, eyed me up and down in a very leering manner, then started smacking his lips!  This is in a Lidl in Stirling!  

I felt filthy, dropped the basket, fled the shop and went straight back to work and showered.  I felt violated.  I still feel creepy even thinking about it.

That happens here quite often. You only have to be young and female and walk past a construction site. Nowadays it's not that often because the construction business is going through very difficult times and many companies went bankrupt. I think the first time I experienced that I was 13 or 14. It was usually followed by a description of what they would like to do to you if you let them. It never really bothered me and I usually replied back in not exactly elegant terms. Not muslims, of course. Common construction workers in Portugal.

ETA: it was so common that construction workers who didn't do it would be laughed at and called names insinuating they were gay...

YAZIDIS STILL TRAPPED ON SOUTH SIDE OF MOUNT SINJAR

Badboy wrote:YAZIDIS STILL TRAPPED ON SOUTH SIDE OF MOUNT SINJAR

Good afternoon badboy

I frankly do not understand the American strategy (that is assuming there is one) Ours as usual seems to be to hang on to their skirts. Of course successive governments have cut our armed forces to the point where we are unable to do anything meaningful by ourselves anyway. As per usual I see that Europe are not going to interfere in any way.

Obama claims his intelligence organisations say there is no one left there. well there won't be soon. The IS plan is expanding rapidly and the latest blueprint calls for quite a bit of Europe to become part of their Caliphate centring on Austria it seems. That may be symbolic since it was Austria where the original march of Islam was stopped

Claudia it is against the law for anyone on a construction site to shout anything at women in the UK



You walk past any where they are building or about to build and you see signs stipulating that it is an offence to do this.



Shame know one has told the foreign workers who do gardening or roof work that...I've watched them abuse young girls as young as 11, still in primary school, shouting things and giggling in their own language and it doesn't take a mastermind to be able to sense what they are saying and it makes my blood boil that these men can get away with it and a man did say something to some builders who pretended ....'me no speak english'....disgusting.

kitti wrote:Claudia it is against the law for anyone on a construction site to shout anything at women in the UK



You walk past any where they are building or about to build and you see signs stipulating that it is an offence to do this.



Shame know one has told the foreign workers who do gardening or roof work that...I've watched them abuse young girls as young as 11,  still in primary school, shouting things and giggling in their own language and it doesn't take a mastermind to be able to sense what they are saying and it makes my blood boil that these men can get away with it and a man did say something to some builders who pretended ....'me no speak english'....disgusting.

Absolutely. hear, hear kitti. on top of which my wife, and other women have told me that there is a difference between wolf whistling, and some innuendo (when such things were allowed) and to feel a man's eyes crawling all over you as it were. The one they quite enjoyed and the other as Iris said made them feel somehow unclean.

When I stopped getting a wolf whistle from the builders. I thought that's it I am past it. That was a terrible moment

fuzeta wrote:When I stopped getting a wolf whistle from the builders. I thought that's it I am past it.  That was a terrible moment

Oh dear.... I do feel sorry for you. I'll let you know when that happens to me

Come on now ......

Angelina wrote:

fuzeta wrote:When I stopped getting a wolf whistle from the builders. I thought that's it I am past it.  That was a terrible moment

Oh dear.... I do feel sorry for you.   I'll let you know when that happens to me

As long as they don't do it to me. Oh I don't know though.

kitti wrote:Claudia it is against the law for anyone on a construction site to shout anything at women in the UK



You walk past any where they are building or about to build and you see signs stipulating that it is an offence to do this.



Shame know one has told the foreign workers who do gardening or roof work that...I've watched them abuse young girls as young as 11,  still in primary school, shouting things and giggling in their own language and it doesn't take a mastermind to be able to sense what they are saying and it makes my blood boil that these men can get away with it and a man did say something to some builders who pretended ....'me no speak english'....disgusting.

I'm not in the UK.
If children get raped and predators get away with it for years sometimes decades, I'd like to know what the penalties are for shouting things to women in construction sites and how control of that is done. Personally, I'm thick skinned and I soon realise that answering back is a great way of dealing with it especially making jokes about their wives, mothers and insinuating about penis sizes and erectile dysfunction. Worked wonders with me, I can assure you.

Kate McCann would be soooo jealous of me because I am, to put it politely, extremely well endowed up top. Which does trigger various wolf whistles and lewd comments from builders etc, even though I am in my 50s. I'm used to it.
There were two lads on a building site once and one shouted "What a huge pair of tits!" and I replied right back, "aye, but not as big as pair as the two of you!" (Calling a man a "tit" in Scotland is NOT a compliment). The passers by fell about laughing and the two "workmen" slunk off. Like I said, I've put up with it since I was 14 and I can deal with it.

The Muslim in Aldi was a totally different kettle of fish. It wasn't a bit of lighthearted banter or flirting or jokey. It was abusive and disgusting.

fuzeta wrote:Come on now ......  

fuzeta wrote:Come on now ......  

fuzeta wrote:Come on now ......  

I'm not sure why you're laughing...anyone would think I made it up.

Btw...that picture of you really does not do you justice

Oh yes, I had breasts quite developed at 11 or 12. That's why I got used to hearing pretty disgusting things very early on. The trick is not to let it get to you and always imply something that sexually diminishes the 'offender'. That said, one thing that I hated (and the reason why I never liked discos) was when on a few occasions I did go and the disco was so crowded that someone would feel you up and you had no idea who so you couldn't do much about it. I think I might have distributed some slaps to the wrong people. And once a woman touched my breast and it wasn't an accident!

Iris wrote:Kate McCann would be soooo jealous of me because I am, to put it politely, extremely well endowed up top.  Which does trigger various wolf whistles and lewd comments from builders etc, even though I am in my 50s.  I'm used to it.  
There were two lads on a building site once and one shouted "What a huge pair of tits!"  and I replied right back, "aye, but not as big as pair as the two of you!"  (Calling a man a "tit" in Scotland is NOT a compliment).  The passers by fell about laughing and the two "workmen" slunk off.  Like I said, I've put up with it since I was 14 and I can deal with it.

The Muslim in Aldi was a totally different kettle of fish.  It wasn't a bit of lighthearted banter or flirting or jokey.  It was abusive and disgusting.

I agree with you entirely Iris abusive and disgusting, and I've been told invasive as well.

ISIS HAVE PLANS TO PRODUCE BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS INCLUDING BUBONIC PLAGE SO ANALYSIS OF A LAPTOP REVEALS.

IRAQI SOLDIERS HAVE BROKEN THE SIEGE OF AMERLI

So ISIS/ISIL/IS or whatever they call themselves this week are not invincible after all.

isis ARE SELLING YAZIDID WOMEN FOR £20??

Badboy wrote:isis ARE SELLING YAZIDID WOMEN FOR £20??

I have no words to express my feelings on that.

I was reading an article a couple of weeks ago.  It was written by Dr Taj Hargey an Oxford Imam.   It is rather long but I found it very good.  Especially his comments about the fact that  all these protesters all around Europe and of course in this country demonstrating against Israel and their war with Hamas in Gaza.  Whilst not one protest has been made about what is happening in Iraq.  The brutal killings of the Yazidi's and persecution of Christians seem to mean nothing to them. Here it is, sorry about the bumph which comes with it!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2725475/Why-aren-t-British-Muslims-condemning-maniacs-killing-Islam-From-leading-Muslim-voice-troubling-question.html

IRAQI FORCES MAKING PROGRESS AGAINST ISIS.