Amaral V McCann trial

It might be a nice gesture for Kate and Gerry to donate some of their hard earnt "Fighting Fund" towards supporting Nadia's mother in her search, don't you think?

Sorry, I must be stupid.
Now I read about "libel case", starting on Friday.
Really libel case?
I thought it has "only" to do with the ban of the book.

Amarals book (german version) is still available.

Libris.de
http://www.libri.de/shop/action/productDetails/8606952/goncalo_amaral_maddie_die_wahrheit_ueber_die_luege_3937987797.html

and

Pressekatalog.de
http://www.pressekatalog.de/MADDIE+-+Die+Wahrheit+%FCber+die+L%FCge-buchnr_23020400.html?PartnerID=SP20512

and

http://www.buch.ch/shop/home/artikeldetails/maddie_die_wahrheit_ueber_die_luege/goncalo_amaral/ISBN3-937987-79-7/ID16564420.html

Not really banned, then.

Nice but having funded the bumbling, incompetent and fraudulent, the lawyers, the ludicrously expensive website etc, etc, I think it unlikely that there is enough left to pay for a taxi ride across Tripoli and I doubt there is the desire to help either.

All of these articles about the upcoming court action against Amaral mention his opinion on what happened the night Madeleine went missing so although they suck up to the Mcs they also put into the minds of readers that there might be an alternative to the abduction. This can only be good for Madeleine and the case in general. Also i noticed they say she went missing or vanished - nothing about being abducted.

Would prefer them to do a bit of questioning but I don't think this is all going the Mcs way do you? Will be interesting to see what happens later in the week.

quickfingers wrote:All of these articles about the upcoming court action against Amaral mention his opinion on what happened the night Madeleine went missing so although they suck up to the Mcs they also put into the minds of readers that there might be an alternative to the abduction. This can only be good for Madeleine and the case in general. Also i noticed they say she went missing or vanished - nothing about being abducted.

Would prefer them to do a bit of questioning but I don't think this is all going the Mcs way do you? Will be interesting to see what happens later in the week.

I know three days have been set aside but not sure if it is actually the Trial, thought it was a hearing to determine whether the injunction should be lifted. I"m sure one of the Portugese Legal Eagles who post here
will enlighten us.

Now in the Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234603/Kate-Gerry-McCann-fly-Portugal-trial-police-officer-involved-search-Madeleine.html

Kate and Gerry McCann to fly to Portugal for trial against former police officer involved in search for Madeleine

Madeleine McCann's parents will fly to Portugal tomorrow for the start of a libel trial against former Portuguese policeman Goncalo Amaral.

Kate and Gerry McCann are planning to attend the opening of the trial in Lisbon on Friday.

Their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said: ‘I can confirm that Kate and Gerry McCann will be travelling to Portugal on Thursday to attend the opening of the defamation case against Goncalo Amaral in Lisbon on Friday morning.

Kate and Gerry McCann are flying to Portugal tomorrow for the opening of the trial

‘They only intend to appear at the opening and I would expect that they will return to the UK fairly swiftly.’

Madeleine was nearly four when she went missing from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on May 3, 2007, while her parents dined with friends nearby.

Despite a massive police investigation and huge publicity worldwide, Madeleine would now be aged six, has not been found.

Mr Amaral was involved in the initial investigation to find Madeleine but was later taken off the case.

Madeleine McCann: Before she went missing in 2007 aged three and, right, a digital image of how she would potentially look today, aged six

In his book, The Truth Of The Lie, he claimed Madeleine was dead and questioned the McCanns' account that she was taken while they were eating with friends.

In September a Portuguese judge granted an injunction banning further sale or publication of the book.

It also banned Mr Amaral from repeating his claims about Madeleine or her parents.

The injunction came after a year-long campaign by the McCanns' lawyers to prevent the publication of the book and a subsequent DVD.

Speaking after it was granted, Gerry McCann said false allegations had done immense damage to the search for their daughter because Portuguese people would be dissuaded from coming forward with information.

Libel trial: Goncalo Amaral was involved in the initial search for Madelein

At the time he said: ‘There's a lot of people in Portugal, who might have evidence, that believe Madeleine is dead.

‘If people believe that, they won't search for her and they won't come forward with information.

‘I know for a fact people have been told Madeleine is dead. There is no evidence to support that and that is unforgivable.’

At one point Portuguese police made Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicester, 'arguidos', or formal suspects, in their daughter's disappearance.

They were questioned by detectives but their status was later lifted. Since then they have continued to campaign to find their daughter

Beattie wrote:

quickfingers wrote:All of these articles about the upcoming court action against Amaral mention his opinion on what happened the night Madeleine went missing so although they suck up to the Mcs they also put into the minds of readers that there might be an alternative to the abduction. This can only be good for Madeleine and the case in general. Also i noticed they say she went missing or vanished - nothing about being abducted.

Would prefer them to do a bit of questioning but I don't think this is all going the Mcs way do you? Will be interesting to see what happens later in the week.

I know three days have been set aside but not sure if it is actually the Trial, thought it was a hearing to determine whether the injunction should be lifted. I"m sure one of the Portugese Legal Eagles who post here
will enlighten us.

I'm not Portuguese or a legal eagle but I can assure you that this is not a trial yet. The judge will be hearing GA's witnesses in his appeal against the injunction and the freezing of his assets. Don't expect the British press to go to any trouble to check if what they are writing is true. Copy and paste each other.

British Brain-dead Corp's appear to be avoiding this story.

Where is Steve Kingstone ? and his side kick ?

quickfingers wrote:All of these articles about the upcoming court action against Amaral mention his opinion on what happened the night Madeleine went missing so although they suck up to the Mcs they also put into the minds of readers that there might be an alternative to the abduction. This can only be good for Madeleine and the case in general. Also i noticed they say she went missing or vanished - nothing about being abducted.

Would prefer them to do a bit of questioning but I don't think this is all going the Mcs way do you? Will be interesting to see what happens later in the week.

The word 'abduction' more or less disappeared from reports about this case - except when quoting members of Team McCanns' own words - around the time the PJ's suspicions and the dogs' alerts made it into the news. While I have nothing but contempt for the British media's cowardice and bias in their reporting of the case, it interests me that the word 'abduction' is still missing from most press articles, while they say Madeleine disappeared or vanished or went missing. I personally think very few people believe this was a case of abduction and only the ever-present threat of legal action stops the newspapers from saying so outright. Since no one can be forced to believe in the theory of abduction and there is no evidence to back it up, God alone knows what the press are really afraid of; they're at liberty to examine all possible theories as outlined in the Portuguese summing up, ie homicide, concealment of body, abduction.

The McCanns should be grateful that Gonçalo Amaral still takes an interest in what happened to Madeleine and in the fact that his book and interviews have helped to keep her disappearance in the public's mind, especially in Portugal. There are at least two ways of looking at anything and I see no reason at all to believe that anyone has stopped looking for Madeleine because of what Mr Amaral has written or said on the subject. The reason no one has stopped looking for Madeleine is AFAICS because no one has ever started, including her parents who seem to be too busy suing and threatening to sue other people to go and help Dave Edgar search the area around Praia da Luz where he insists Madeleine is being held. I'll be really interested to see how much searching they'll do when they get to Portugal this time, because they certainly didn't do any the last time they were there, being too busy meeting their lawyers. Will they finally start searching for their daughter, will they help their chief investigator look for her, will they take time to look for Madeleine or only take time to look for money?

Gerry McCann: '‘I know for a fact people have been told Madeleine is dead. There is no evidence to support that and that is unforgivable.’

It's also unforgivable that the McCanns keep trotting out the theory that Madeleine was abducted as though it were a proven fact. It isn't - there is not a shred of proof that this was a case of abduction. The Portuguese summing-up mentioned the possibilities: homicide, concealment of body, abduction - all of these are theories, no more, no less. They are all up for discussion and debate. If the McCanns don't understand the difference between a theory and a proven fact they need to get themselves an education.

It'll be interesting to see if any member of the British media knows a theory when they hear one, but given their imbecilic treatment of this case so far I doubt we'll see even a glimmer of intelligence at this late stage.

Good morning to all of you ,
this is not directly related to the McCanns but perhaps indeed indirectly.

Frankreich, Mitterrand, muzzle for authors

link:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/kultur/Frankreich-Zensur;art772,2948405

Sorry, I managed only a poor Google-translation.

...The writer (Marie NDiaye, she is in the opinion that the french immigration policy is monstrous) forfeits its credibility. "In the exemplary democracy by Nicolas Sarkozy to write freely," he said. "The censorship, which I detest, I prefer the measure." The author now lives in Berlin, Calls for clarification of Culture Frédéric Mitterrand. "A writer is there to interfere in matters that concern him nothing. To say that one should not say, "said the former Goncourt winner Tahar Ben Jelloun, the" Parisien ". "If the literary prizes now go to writers that are consistent with the Elysee Palace politically?" Asked the spokesman of the Socialist Party, Benoît Hamon. NDiaye said they did not represent France, but the literature....

[quote="Dimsie"]Gerry McCann: '‘I know for a fact people have been told Madeleine is dead. There is no evidence to support that and that is unforgivable.’

But my child was worried on our holiday she might get snatched due to an abductor.

The truth of the matter is that no one will, or can come forward with information because there is none. People give information galore when someone goes missing, etc. No book will stop them from coming forward if they have information and it seems to be a stab in the dark from Gerry McCann when he says what he says.

I think the McCanns know they have milked the public dry and this is their last chance to make some money.

[quote="it's me again"]

Dimsie wrote:Gerry McCann: '‘I know for a fact people have been told Madeleine is dead. There is no evidence to support that and that is unforgivable.’

But my child was worried on our holiday she might get snatched due to an abductor.

Mine had the living daylights scared out of them before the film (Shrek 3) even started.

Gerry deserves a good smack in the mouth for that stunt on it's own.

Agreed, TFG, my daughter was terrified that a man could actually get into our house, through the locked front door and take her from the bed, and all because of Gerry's fairy stories and his claims that it was like they were "dining at the bottom of our own garden".

Yet another nasty idea planted by them, and I know one fellow member here has had their child accosted on holiday by brainldead British tourists who thought she was Madeleine.

Old enough at the time to still be terrified by that, thanks for asking.

Alfiefinn wrote:Agreed, TFG, my daughter was terrified that a man could actually get into our house, through the locked front door and take her from the bed, and all because of Gerry's fairy stories and his claims that it was like they were "dining at the bottom of our own garden".

Yet another nasty idea planted by them, and I know one fellow member here has had their child accosted on holiday by brainldead British tourists who thought she was Madeleine.

Yes Alfie, I know the poster you mean and I don't think she will ever get over it. Her holiday, that they worked hard all year for, was ruined bcase of it.

Good Morning all,

Just catching up on the Sky News and there is definitely a shift in their reporting of this case, maybe just hedging their bets or suddenly realising that, after all, Madeleine may not have been abducted.


"Despite a massive police investigation and huge publicity worldwide, she has not been found "end of quote.

The Daily Mail article is almost word for word, do you think Clarence Mitchell wrote the piece and sent it to all
the U.K. Press? Notice how Sky put the photo of Kate looking solemn.... a prelude to how she will look in
Court when the Trial commences to show just how traumatised she is and needs that 1.2 million Euros.!!!

Sadly, even without the sniffer dog alerts, I would find it almost inconceivable that Maddie is still alive. Statistically, it's extremely implausible. I really find it hard to imagine that McCann is naive enough to believe there is much chance of Maddie being found alive. Therefore, I tend to feel that his much-repeated statement that there is no evidence that Maddie has come to harm, is just a ploy.

Beattie wrote:I think the McCanns know they have milked the public dry and this is their last chance to make some money.

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To be honest, I doubt many have been milked dry by the McCanns. Most people are far too rational to believe that a fund can help find Maddie so long after she disappeared. Even those who believe in the alleged abduction can't see the fund's purpose.

I really can"t understand why the McCanns continue with their claim that Madeleine is still alive when the
World searched for her and a £1.5 million Reward did not tempt anyone to come forward with information.
Obviously, if they admit that Madeleine may be dead, the Fund is a Fraud but until such time as Madeliene"s
body is found both sides are at an impasse.

Amaral"s evidence that Madeleine was not abducted is far more plausible and I hope if this case goes to Trial,
the Judges and Jury will see common sense .

The McCanns " good names" and reputations are damaged!
And they know that.
They are despaired I assume. If they are able to feel such things.
The fact alone that they need to fight in a court in Portugal against Dr. Amarals book says it all.
And Dr. Amaral is not a nobody who just wants to make money with a "very hot potato".
No, he has been the leading chief inspector of their own case!
It is like water and fire.

Everton Football Club still believe in the Fund.

I read of a young girl who was given Yellow ribbon and spent hours and hours making bows to be sold. In
all her Mother said she raised £401.00......there are thousands of cases like this, Race Nights, Pub quizzes,
children from Madeleine"s Nursery making cakes to be sold . These are the Donors I feel sorry for , they didn"t just make a donation via paypal, they worked hard .

Since we have been told several times by Cameron Mitchell that the Donations are drying up and the Fund
will probably be wound up by the end of the Year, who is going to pay for the 3 Lawyers involved in this
lawsuit?