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Post  chrissie on Tue 8 Jul - 13:17

Iris wrote:Joana Morais ‏@xklamation 1m

#mccann gave statements, gerry tried to make allegations about sniffer dogs and book veracity but judge shut him

   Well done that judge.

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 8 Jul - 13:26

Joana Morais @xklamation · 11m

#mccann hearing session of 10th postponed due to mccanns request for confidential fiscal documentation - "dilatory manouvers" indeed

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Post  Guest on Tue 8 Jul - 13:32

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@janeymack1 @RothleyPillow Finished for today but Thursday has been put back by #mccann s for fiscal info on GA book sales.

(That would be the book they had banned, thereby scuppering any "sales". Bit of an own goal moment there.)

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Post  Keela on Tue 8 Jul - 13:38

almostgothic wrote:Joana Morais @xklamation  ·  11m

#mccann hearing session of 10th postponed due to mccanns request for confidential fiscal documentation - "dilatory manouvers" indeed


Fiscal documentation is financial documentation. They probably want to know his entire financial situation. Why can't they be asked for:
1. Evidence that their mortgage is still outstanding
2. How much money was raised from the sale of the book
3. How much Gerry earns in a year
4. How much they have outstanding on credit/debit cards
5. Any other personal financial information.

What's good for the goose........

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 8 Jul - 13:40

Iris wrote:
almostgothic wrote: martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt  ·  2m
#Madeleine Kate McCann tells Lisbon liable trial ex-cop Goncalo Amaral's book left her feeling defeated.

martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt  ·  1m
#Madeleine Mrs McCann says Mr Amaral accused them of hiding M's body in a freezer and then transporting it in their hire car.

Colin ‏@Colin54637641 6m

@collywobbles54 Sean had asked them if they'd hidden Madeleine (according to KM) i.e. as though had heard about book via 3rd party #mccann

wendy jenkins ‏@bendiwendi_1 1m

@collywobbles54 yes I heard martin say that Sean had asked if they hid mm also she was asked questions from GA LAWYER #mccann

From Martin Brunt just now

The Judge has been questioning Mrs. McCann
Asked her when she first became aware of Mr. Amaral`s book - said she heard it was going to be published then read bits of it on the internet. Said it was hurtful that they were suffering from the abduction of the daughter then had this insult on top. Said Sean had asked them if they had hidden Maddie`s body in a freezer and then transported it in their hire car.

Martin Brunt said Mr. Amaral`s lawyer questioned Mrs. McCann and asked her about the support she had received, i.e. money and celebrities etc.


I've never heard a freezer being mentioned on the Radio news.

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Post  Guest on Tue 8 Jul - 13:48

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@Bishop_Basher Amaral's lawyer has been allowed to ask questions of Kate #McCann, arguing that there's been no hindrance to the search for M

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Post  jassi on Tue 8 Jul - 13:50

Iris wrote:


I see she is wearing her carefully applied ugly face again.

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Post  Chris on Tue 8 Jul - 14:04

almostgothic wrote:martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt  ·  14m

#Madeleine Amaral refused permission to speak in trial. He and McCanns blocked at first, but McCanns appealed. He didn't, now too late.


martinbrunt @skymartinbrunt  ·  13m

#Madeleine Libel trial now adjourned for a while. Court still demanding Amaral reveal earnings from his book.

I wonder if this has anything to do with Amaral dismissing his lawyer.

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Post  Keela on Tue 8 Jul - 14:04

jassi wrote:
Iris wrote:


I see she is wearing her carefully applied ugly face again.


They must be the best looking couple around. They are certainly a match made in heaven.

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Post  interested on Tue 8 Jul - 14:11

almostgothic wrote:Kay Burley @KayBurley  ·  5m

Kate #McCann tells court: "Sean asked me in October 'Mr Amaral said you killed Madeleine'. I just said that he said a lot of silly things,"



IF that was said, it should be considered as "hearsay" unverified unofficial information; unlike the contents of Mr. Amaral's book which is based on the official files.

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Post  Roasted Arizona on Tue 8 Jul - 14:33

Gerry was 'happy to take questions'........they really do think they are something else!

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Post  Ireland on Tue 8 Jul - 14:36

Roasted Arizona wrote:Like we've all said and thought in the past....those twins are going to be so damaged


Absolutely, these two have no shame, nor remorse, and will use those two children for their own benefit, it makes me shudder thinking of Kate McCann as their mother.

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Post  Ireland on Tue 8 Jul - 14:40

Keela wrote:
jassi wrote:
Iris wrote:


I see she is wearing her carefully applied ugly face again.


They must be the best looking couple around. They are certainly a match made in heaven.

They certainly deserve each other, they will have to stay together. Till death us do part, or till prison us depart. Hope it is the latter.

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Post  interested on Tue 8 Jul - 14:44

Roasted Arizona wrote:Gerry was 'happy to take questions'........they really do think they are something else!



Picture on the DM site shows him scratching his ear as he spoke..."happy" to answer questions of course but there's that tell tale scratching his ear when he is telling "tales".

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Post  chrissie on Tue 8 Jul - 14:48


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Post  interested on Tue 8 Jul - 14:54

Yes, thank you "chrissie"..that's the one.

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Post  Ireland on Tue 8 Jul - 15:03

The sick, sick minds of the parents McCann. Who care not what they say as long as they win the trial.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/08/son-claims-hid-madeleine-kate-mccann-court
"The McCanns fear their daughter Madeleine's kidnapper may strike again and believe that he or she will have been laughing at claims they hid the girl's body.

Gerry and Kate McCann spoke to reporters after delivering personal statements at Lisbon's Palace of Justice in the libel case brought by them against Gonçalo Amaral over claims he made in a book about the disappearance of their daughter from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve in 2007.

Gerry McCann said that whoever was involved must have been laughing during the last six years at what Amaral has claimed – that there was no abduction and there is no predator out there.

"There is – he or she or they may strike again," he said."


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Post  Roasted Arizona on Tue 8 Jul - 15:07

Ireland wrote:The sick, sick minds of the parents McCann. Who care not what they say as long as they win the trial.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jul/08/son-claims-hid-madeleine-kate-mccann-court
"The McCanns fear their daughter Madeleine's kidnapper may strike again and believe that he or she will have been laughing at claims they hid the girl's body.

Gerry and Kate McCann spoke to reporters after delivering personal statements at Lisbon's Palace of Justice in the libel case brought by them against Gonçalo Amaral over claims he made in a book about the disappearance of their daughter from the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in the Algarve in 2007.

Gerry McCann said that whoever was involved must have been laughing during the last six years at what Amaral has claimed – that there was no abduction and there is no predator out there.

"There is – he or she or they may strike again," he said."


I think the 'prolific abductor' would have struck again by now .......

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Post  chrissie on Tue 8 Jul - 15:25

It has me so angry today the way they have tried to use Sean today.  Don't they realise that his friends/school pals can read these headlines?  Children can be very cruel at times  

ETA: As a reminder, Dr Amaral originally asked for the trial to be held in private to protect the children but the McCanns were against this

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Post  mara thon on Tue 8 Jul - 16:10

I don´t know how the Mccanns can live with themselves. Using the twins as they do is nothing short of disgusting, but then you only have to look at the photo on this thread to see the hate and spite in Kate Mccann´s face, she is making herself truly ugly with so much vindictiveness and hate and boy does it show. Gerry Mccann is so far up his own backside I think he views the world through his bellybutton. A very unpleasant couple indeed.

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Post  Guest on Tue 8 Jul - 16:11

http://www.rtp.pt/noticias/index.php?article=751066&tm=8&layout=122&visual=61

Note that Mister Gerry places extra special emphasis on the word HID.  Is this a damage limitation exercise, if Kate really did say "killed" in Court?

ETA -
Bronte Textusa from Justice for Madeleine Group wrote:
“Anchor - Closing arguments were delayed in the civil lawsuit trial that opposes the McCann couple against Gonçalo Amaral. Maddie's parents ask for one million two hundred thousand euros in damages. The family claims for the protection of rights and freedoms and accuses the former PJ inspector of defamatory statements. The audience is taking place in the Justice Palace Lisbon.

During the morning, the father and the mother of the child who disappeared in Praia da Luz in May 2007 were heard.

Ligia, good afternoon, what did Kate and Gerry McCann say in that session and why have the allegations been postponed?”

“Ligia Verissimo - Good afternoon, they were postponed because the McCann couple wants to know exactly how much, both the former inspector of the Judiciary and the editor, profited from the book and so the court ordered… will ask the Customs and Tax Authority to inform, precisely, the court. Therefore it is necessary that the document arrives, it is required it is distributed to the parties and that they look into the matter, and it is known that the editor at least, does not agree with this request and therefore… however the judicial vacations will come between. The judge also warned the court to the fact that from 1 September the reform of the judicial map will occur, the judicial reorganization, therefore it will be very unlikely before September, October when these closing arguments will happen.

So as you well said, this morning was dedicated only to hear the father and the mother of Madeleine McCann. They were very consistent in their testimony. Both of them say they are not against freedom of expression, but what is at issue here is a case of defamation. They say they were devastated and shocked by the publication of the book and above all maintain that the book put in question the continuation of the investigation because it was read by many people who could have known more information and as the argument in the book was that the girl may be dead, did not advance.

The lawyer of Gonçalo Amaral's, who has a new lawyer, in the last session he dismissed the one who accompanied him in this process over many months, came here to say that what is happening here is a case of persecution of the former inspector because other books were published and defamation processes were put just against Gonçalo Amaral, that the investigation was not put into question and if the McCanns had anything to complain about what is in the book, they continue to maintain that what is in the book is just the result of the investigation that was opened, then they were to the Portuguese state, which they didn’t.”

“Gerry McCann - Anybody who has someone missing and someone says you hid your own daughter’s body and you faked an abduction, when that child is still missing and we’re doing everything in our power to find her, I think that would be absolutely shocking for any family.

I also said in court, Sean and Amelie are really, really well but obviously they are not immune to the media. They hear things, they go to school, they hear the radio, they hear the theories, and Sean has obviously asked Kate explicitly why does Mr Amaral say you hid Madeleine.”

“Miguel Cruz Rodrigues - A person is not a socially destitute when it has the support of so many people, public figures, when it presents itself in dinners with thousands of people, in support… ... when it comes ... the author even spoke in the British Parliament. Tell me how is it possible in these circumstances to speak of social destruction?”

“Ligia Verissimo - So Gonçalo Amaral's lawyer says he does not agree with this process, obvious anyway, and will also think if he somehow can make the former inspector to come here and speak, because initially the court found that neither party could speak but only the McCanns appealed to the Court of Appeal of that decision, the Court of Appeal gave them reason, and only because of that they spoke here today. The former inspector did not speak, we do not know if it will happen or not, it will very difficult for it to happen as it’s a case, in short, that has been tried, but ultimately there are still many loose ends in this process that is already 5 years in the Portuguese courts”

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Post  Keela on Tue 8 Jul - 16:20

mara thon wrote:I don´t know how the Mccanns can live with themselves.  Using the twins as they do is nothing short of disgusting, but then you only have to look at the photo on this thread to see the hate and spite in Kate Mccann´s face, she is making herself truly ugly with so much vindictiveness and hate and boy does it show.  Gerry Mccann is so far up his own backside I think he views the world through his bellybutton.  A very unpleasant couple indeed.


      

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Post  Guest on Tue 8 Jul - 16:24

Do watch the video in the link above, even if you don't understand any Portuguese, the body language tells you all that you need to know.  Goncalo Amaral left the court smiling and waving to reporters, Kate had on her usual "woe is me" face and didn't speak (maybe because her hand was being crushed by Gerry's) and Gerry came out with his usual pugilistic, nasty wee nyaff stance, tugging and scratching at various body parts.  They have made complete eejits of themselves yet again, when up against a true gent like GA; and their reason for delaying the trial yet again (on the 10th)?  Even more money.  Says it all.

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Post  interested on Tue 8 Jul - 16:45

If the McCanns had not sued Mr. Amaral, Sean would not have heard anything on the radio about a libel trial.

I wonder if the twins have read her book or has she only let them see a censored copy.

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