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Founder of Missing Children SA was a paedophile - and the McCanns sought his help
docmac Sat 30 Oct - 22:23
There was a huge shock awaiting local newspaper readers here this morning. Pieter Boshoff, the founder and ex head of Missing children SA, has been exposed as a paedophile. He will not have to face justice, as he committed suicide just a few weeks back. I am sad to say that I was acquainted with the man - he lived around the corner - and had absolutely no idea of his other side. The article makes it quite clear that he was very popular with an assortment of high fliers in Cape Town and further afield. His reputation and that of the organisation even alerted the McCanns - he was contacted and asked for help by John McCann in 2007.
What a bastard!!
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jimuck Sat 30 Oct - 22:32
Maybe a part of this global paedophile network, i hope David Payne had no connections to this person.
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jimuck Sat 30 Oct - 22:35
Where was Jim Gamble when you need him, i hope Jim Gamble has no connections with this BASTARD.
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docmac Sat 30 Oct - 22:39
jimuck wrote:Maybe a part of this global paedophile network, i hope David Payne had no connections to this person.
The thought had crossed my mind.
I have been trolling around looking for more information on any links and I have to say the press here never seem to fall into the McTrap of reporting Madeleine as having been abducted. They always use the word 'disappeared'. For example:
In 2007, murdered South African children included Sheldean Human (7) of Pretoria, Mikayla Rossouw (6) of Swellendam, Annestacia Wiese (11) of Mitchells Plain and Sonja Brown (2) of Rawsonville. Internationally, the world was gripped by the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann (3) from a Portuguese flat.
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maebee Sat 30 Oct - 23:16
Thanks for bringing this to us Docmac. It just shows that those in high positions are not always what they claim to be. This guy was one nasty individual.
Child crusader’s secret life
30 October | 11:56
A month after the suicide of Pieter Boshoff, the respected founder of Missing Children SA, startling details have emerged about the children’s rights crusader’s dark secret life involving gay teen pornography, theft, spiralling debt and an alter ego called “Riaan”.
Boshoff’s suicide leap from the fourth-floor of an upmarket apartment building he was renting in Bloubergstrand shocked many Capetonians including Western Cape Premier Helen Zille who described his death as “devastating”.
But those close to him say it seems Boshoff’s two lives were starting to converge, and he decided to kill himself.
After his death, thousands of photographs and video clips of teenage boys having sex were found on Boshoff’s computers, among pictures of Boshoff posing with high-profile figures including Zille and Patricia de Lille. There were also photographs of Nelson Mandela and a letter from Desmond Tutu for one of Boshoff’s websites.
This week, friends and colleagues told Weekend Argus they had discovered that Boshoff, 38, fabricated stories about a son called “Loakie” whom he said had died at the age of nine, and a trust fund that he claimed he would have access to when he turned 40.
When Boshoff left Missing Children SA in 2008 he joined MylifE, an outreach organisation that works with youth at risk. He left there about five months before he died.
Former MylifE managing director Sarah Peacocke said Boshoff knew a lot of celebrities.
“We joked he had ‘celebrityitis’. He loved to be pictured with celebs which he’d put up on Facebook.”
He had photos of himself with celebrities like presenter Michelle McLean and UK pop singer Estelle, sports stars such as Benni McCarthy and politicians like Kgalema Motlanthe, De Lille but mostly of himself and Zille.
Peacocke owned the Bloubergstrand apartment Boshoff was renting – and lived in the one below him.
After he died she found photographs and video clips of gay porn when she accessed his computer. “I was gobsmacked – there must have been 10 000 or more.”
She said there were also saved conversations from chat-room sites Boshoff had visited where he had been very explicit about what he wanted to do.
“He’d say he wanted a toyboy. He was targeting boys still at school, probably around 16 or 17 years old.”
She also found some of her post, including bank statements, and cellphones that belonged to her in his apartment.
“I also found a voucher from Cash Crusaders for a MylifE laptop which he had sold for R850 and a modem for R150.”
Boshoff had told Peacocke and her husband Vince that he wanted to buy the apartment when he got access to his trust fund, and would take over the bond until then. But he defaulted on it and regularly borrowed money from the couple and other people. When he died he owed them nearly R50 000, according to a letter he had signed.
Peacocke said Boshoff had tried to kill himself two weeks before he jumped.
“He taped the bathroom doors shut and took two of my dining chairs and filled oven trays with charcoal which he set alight. He climbed into the bath and told us he wanted to die from carbon monoxide poisoning.”
More than a month later the apartment still reeks of smoke and there is smoke damage in the adjoining bedroom.
“I saw it more as a cry for help than a serious attempt on his life. Pieter was good at playing the victim,” Peacocke said.
On Friday October 1, the day he died, Boshoff went down to Peacocke’s apartment at 9.10am.
“He was fine; happy. He said he was meeting a guy who was interested in buying one of his websites, www.capetown.fm, and then we could go to the bank at 10am and he would deposit our money.”
“When he was late Vince was going to call him but we thought we’d give him a few more minutes.”
At 10.20am Peacocke heard a thud.
“Then my mobile rang and Philip the security guard said ‘That tenant of yours has just jumped off the building and he’s dead’. I said, ‘Don’t joke.’”
But when she went downstairs she saw Boshoff’s body. He hadn’t left a note.
Linzi Thomas, MylifE founder, said she had trusted Boshoff because of his background with Missing Children SA and his apparent close relationship with Zille.
She said he was also very close to the police and had senior officers’ cellphone numbers, including that of former Western Cape police commissioner Mzwandile Petros.
“He was brilliant at networking and he was online 24 hours a day. He used our laptop and wouldn’t let it out of his sight.”
But when Boshoff left MyLife five months ago saying he was going to work for the DA, he took the sponsored laptop with him.
“We didn’t think anything of it at the time but when we asked him for it back he always had an excuse.”
Thomas said a week before he died she went to his flat to ask for the laptop.
“I was shocked at what he looked like. He had put on about 10kg and the flat was in a mess and stank. He hugged me and told me he was struggling.”
Boshoff told her he’d sent the laptop to Cape Town with a friend. After he died it emerged that he had sold it to Cash Crusaders.
“It was only when we got the laptop back that we realised Pieter had stolen five of our IBM computers which he sold on Gumtree as well as my camera.”
Thomas said they gave the laptop to the police to examine and when they got it back there was nothing on it. But a computer boffin at MyLife restored it and found hundreds of video clips and photographs of gay teen pornography.
Boshoff had logged on to gay chatroom sites with the user name “Olahatzi” where he befriended teenage boys.
Peacocke said that after Boshoff’s funeral his elderly father had told her that when Boshoff was nine his mother had shot herself and the youngster had found her body.
That trauma of that must have piled up over the years, especially when he was working for Missing Children SA, she said.
“Sometimes dealing with others people’s trauma helps you deal with your own.”
Peacocke said she was still trying to unravel Boshoff’s complex story.
“Right now I have so many questions and wonder if anyone can shed any light on it.
“I don’t think what he did in his personal life should detract from the good he did with Missing Children (SA).”
She said that besides the computer and clothes, all that was left in Boshoff’s apartment when he died was a list of celebrity phone numbers and some personal documents – all of which fitted into a small bag.
Boshoff had started Missing Children SA in 2007 to help find missing children and to offer support to their families.
Judy Botes, Missing Children SA’s spokeswoman, said the reason Boshoff left in 2008 was because he had a nervous breakdown.
She said she was aware of Boshoff’s debt and Missing Children SA had closed all banks accounts in his name when he left.
Police spokesman Captain FC van Wyk said Boshoff’s death was still being investigated as a death inquest as no foul play was suspected. -
Saturday Argus
Child crusader’s secret life
30 October | 11:56
A month after the suicide of Pieter Boshoff, the respected founder of Missing Children SA, startling details have emerged about the children’s rights crusader’s dark secret life involving gay teen pornography, theft, spiralling debt and an alter ego called “Riaan”.
Boshoff’s suicide leap from the fourth-floor of an upmarket apartment building he was renting in Bloubergstrand shocked many Capetonians including Western Cape Premier Helen Zille who described his death as “devastating”.
But those close to him say it seems Boshoff’s two lives were starting to converge, and he decided to kill himself.
After his death, thousands of photographs and video clips of teenage boys having sex were found on Boshoff’s computers, among pictures of Boshoff posing with high-profile figures including Zille and Patricia de Lille. There were also photographs of Nelson Mandela and a letter from Desmond Tutu for one of Boshoff’s websites.
This week, friends and colleagues told Weekend Argus they had discovered that Boshoff, 38, fabricated stories about a son called “Loakie” whom he said had died at the age of nine, and a trust fund that he claimed he would have access to when he turned 40.
When Boshoff left Missing Children SA in 2008 he joined MylifE, an outreach organisation that works with youth at risk. He left there about five months before he died.
Former MylifE managing director Sarah Peacocke said Boshoff knew a lot of celebrities.
“We joked he had ‘celebrityitis’. He loved to be pictured with celebs which he’d put up on Facebook.”
He had photos of himself with celebrities like presenter Michelle McLean and UK pop singer Estelle, sports stars such as Benni McCarthy and politicians like Kgalema Motlanthe, De Lille but mostly of himself and Zille.
Peacocke owned the Bloubergstrand apartment Boshoff was renting – and lived in the one below him.
After he died she found photographs and video clips of gay porn when she accessed his computer. “I was gobsmacked – there must have been 10 000 or more.”
She said there were also saved conversations from chat-room sites Boshoff had visited where he had been very explicit about what he wanted to do.
“He’d say he wanted a toyboy. He was targeting boys still at school, probably around 16 or 17 years old.”
She also found some of her post, including bank statements, and cellphones that belonged to her in his apartment.
“I also found a voucher from Cash Crusaders for a MylifE laptop which he had sold for R850 and a modem for R150.”
Boshoff had told Peacocke and her husband Vince that he wanted to buy the apartment when he got access to his trust fund, and would take over the bond until then. But he defaulted on it and regularly borrowed money from the couple and other people. When he died he owed them nearly R50 000, according to a letter he had signed.
Peacocke said Boshoff had tried to kill himself two weeks before he jumped.
“He taped the bathroom doors shut and took two of my dining chairs and filled oven trays with charcoal which he set alight. He climbed into the bath and told us he wanted to die from carbon monoxide poisoning.”
More than a month later the apartment still reeks of smoke and there is smoke damage in the adjoining bedroom.
“I saw it more as a cry for help than a serious attempt on his life. Pieter was good at playing the victim,” Peacocke said.
On Friday October 1, the day he died, Boshoff went down to Peacocke’s apartment at 9.10am.
“He was fine; happy. He said he was meeting a guy who was interested in buying one of his websites, www.capetown.fm, and then we could go to the bank at 10am and he would deposit our money.”
“When he was late Vince was going to call him but we thought we’d give him a few more minutes.”
At 10.20am Peacocke heard a thud.
“Then my mobile rang and Philip the security guard said ‘That tenant of yours has just jumped off the building and he’s dead’. I said, ‘Don’t joke.’”
But when she went downstairs she saw Boshoff’s body. He hadn’t left a note.
Linzi Thomas, MylifE founder, said she had trusted Boshoff because of his background with Missing Children SA and his apparent close relationship with Zille.
She said he was also very close to the police and had senior officers’ cellphone numbers, including that of former Western Cape police commissioner Mzwandile Petros.
“He was brilliant at networking and he was online 24 hours a day. He used our laptop and wouldn’t let it out of his sight.”
But when Boshoff left MyLife five months ago saying he was going to work for the DA, he took the sponsored laptop with him.
“We didn’t think anything of it at the time but when we asked him for it back he always had an excuse.”
Thomas said a week before he died she went to his flat to ask for the laptop.
“I was shocked at what he looked like. He had put on about 10kg and the flat was in a mess and stank. He hugged me and told me he was struggling.”
Boshoff told her he’d sent the laptop to Cape Town with a friend. After he died it emerged that he had sold it to Cash Crusaders.
“It was only when we got the laptop back that we realised Pieter had stolen five of our IBM computers which he sold on Gumtree as well as my camera.”
Thomas said they gave the laptop to the police to examine and when they got it back there was nothing on it. But a computer boffin at MyLife restored it and found hundreds of video clips and photographs of gay teen pornography.
Boshoff had logged on to gay chatroom sites with the user name “Olahatzi” where he befriended teenage boys.
Peacocke said that after Boshoff’s funeral his elderly father had told her that when Boshoff was nine his mother had shot herself and the youngster had found her body.
That trauma of that must have piled up over the years, especially when he was working for Missing Children SA, she said.
“Sometimes dealing with others people’s trauma helps you deal with your own.”
Peacocke said she was still trying to unravel Boshoff’s complex story.
“Right now I have so many questions and wonder if anyone can shed any light on it.
“I don’t think what he did in his personal life should detract from the good he did with Missing Children (SA).”
She said that besides the computer and clothes, all that was left in Boshoff’s apartment when he died was a list of celebrity phone numbers and some personal documents – all of which fitted into a small bag.
Boshoff had started Missing Children SA in 2007 to help find missing children and to offer support to their families.
Judy Botes, Missing Children SA’s spokeswoman, said the reason Boshoff left in 2008 was because he had a nervous breakdown.
She said she was aware of Boshoff’s debt and Missing Children SA had closed all banks accounts in his name when he left.
Police spokesman Captain FC van Wyk said Boshoff’s death was still being investigated as a death inquest as no foul play was suspected. -
Saturday Argus
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steve1295 Sat 30 Oct - 23:17
Just goes to show no one really knows anybody.Docmac i feel for you xxx
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jimuck Sat 30 Oct - 23:29
Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
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Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
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docmac Sat 30 Oct - 23:43
steve1295 wrote:Just goes to show no one really knows anybody.Docmac i feel for you xxx
I certainly got taken in by the guy. I'm sure the McCanns have (ex) friends who would say the same now.
Thanks for your kind words by the way.
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maebee Sun 31 Oct - 0:25
jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
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docmac Sun 31 Oct - 0:39
maebee wrote:jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
www.tpuc.org/node/34 - Cached - Similar
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
There is some scary info in that blog, Maebee. More links to Masons etc too. You know, I have never really gone for the Mason conspiracy scenario in this case. But I had not seen this before...
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maebee Sun 31 Oct - 0:51
docmac wrote:maebee wrote:jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
www.tpuc.org/node/34 - Cached - Similar
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
There is some scary info in that blog, Maebee. More links to Masons etc too. You know, I have never really gone for the Mason conspiracy scenario in this case. But I had not seen this before...
I hadn't seen that either doc. So these people: http://www.templars.org.uk/
have left a wreath for Madeleine!
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Gamble may have not got involved with the SA episode but he has been pronouncing on a very recent Cambodian incident, involving a British man, Nick GRIFFIN
http://www.manchesterwired.co.uk/news.php/101551-Briton-held-for-child-sex-abuse-in-Cambodian-orphanage
http://www.manchesterwired.co.uk/news.php/101551-Briton-held-for-child-sex-abuse-in-Cambodian-orphanage
The British founder of a Cambodian orphanage is facing prosecution for sexually assaulting a boy in his care.
Nicholas Griffin, 52, was held when police raided his isolated base in countryside near Siem Reap, in the north-west of the country.
Up to 100 children were moved to a safe house in an operation that involved British and local investigators.
Mr Griffin, originally from Wales, left Britain in 2006 before founding the Cambodia Orphan Fund, one year later.
He faces a potential 10-year jail sentence over a claim he sexually assaulted a 15-year-old boy.
He was originally held on suspicion of breaking child labour laws and his orphanage licence.
The orphanage manager, a Cambodian man, has been charged with the illegal removal of a child to the orphanage.
Jim Gamble, of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop), said Cambodian police are now examining claims of "institutional abuse" within the orphanage, which occupies an unusual fortress-like building.
Mr Gamble added: "The UK and Cambodia may have different legal systems and law enforcement practices, but we share a clear, joint commitment: to prevent harm to children."
He said the operation demonstrated the value of the organisation's international child protection network.
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docmac Sun 31 Oct - 1:29
carmen wrote:Gamble may have not got involved with the SA episode but he has been pronouncing on a very recent Cambodian incident, involving a British man, Nick GRIFFIN
http://www.manchesterwired.co.uk/news.php/101551-Briton-held-for-child-sex-abuse-in-Cambodian-orphanageThe British founder of a Cambodian orphanage is facing prosecution for sexually assaulting a boy in his care.
Nicholas Griffin, 52, was held when police raided his isolated base in countryside near Siem Reap, in the north-west of the country.
Up to 100 children were moved to a safe house in an operation that involved British and local investigators.
Mr Griffin, originally from Wales, left Britain in 2006 before founding the Cambodia Orphan Fund, one year later.
He faces a potential 10-year jail sentence over a claim he sexually assaulted a 15-year-old boy.
He was originally held on suspicion of breaking child labour laws and his orphanage licence.
The orphanage manager, a Cambodian man, has been charged with the illegal removal of a child to the orphanage.
Jim Gamble, of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop), said Cambodian police are now examining claims of "institutional abuse" within the orphanage, which occupies an unusual fortress-like building.
Mr Gamble added: "The UK and Cambodia may have different legal systems and law enforcement practices, but we share a clear, joint commitment: to prevent harm to children."
He said the operation demonstrated the value of the organisation's international child protection network.
I have much to say about Gamble. Just not on a public forum.
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maebee wrote:jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
www.tpuc.org/node/34 - Cached - Similar
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
Hi maebee, just heading of to bed, ,,but before i go, i will say this, when i heard about that Dunblane massacre it gutted me to the core, i had a daughter the same age on that very ,very sad day, she is now 20 ,as all those innocent children would have been this year, when i look at that school photo, even today i still feel the same pain as i did all those years ago .
Now what i find even more tragic, is the fact that Freemasons & Paedophiles maybe involved in this tragedy.
Someone with serious power and honest values need to bring all these sick bastards to trial, even if it does involve Blair & Brown.
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docmac wrote:carmen wrote:Gamble may have not got involved with the SA episode but he has been pronouncing on a very recent Cambodian incident, involving a British man, Nick GRIFFIN
http://www.manchesterwired.co.uk/news.php/101551-Briton-held-for-child-sex-abuse-in-Cambodian-orphanageThe British founder of a Cambodian orphanage is facing prosecution for sexually assaulting a boy in his care.
Nicholas Griffin, 52, was held when police raided his isolated base in countryside near Siem Reap, in the north-west of the country.
Up to 100 children were moved to a safe house in an operation that involved British and local investigators.
Mr Griffin, originally from Wales, left Britain in 2006 before founding the Cambodia Orphan Fund, one year later.
He faces a potential 10-year jail sentence over a claim he sexually assaulted a 15-year-old boy.
He was originally held on suspicion of breaking child labour laws and his orphanage licence.
The orphanage manager, a Cambodian man, has been charged with the illegal removal of a child to the orphanage.
Jim Gamble, of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop), said Cambodian police are now examining claims of "institutional abuse" within the orphanage, which occupies an unusual fortress-like building.
Mr Gamble added: "The UK and Cambodia may have different legal systems and law enforcement practices, but we share a clear, joint commitment: to prevent harm to children."
He said the operation demonstrated the value of the organisation's international child protection network.
I have much to say about Gamble. Just not on a public forum.
Fell free to PM - I could reciprocate about spmeone else
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tanszi Sun 31 Oct - 1:41
Well the UK and Cambodia are the same as the Portugese then. Different legal systems and law enforcement practices, with a clear commitment to prevent harm to children. all imo.
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Angelique Sun 31 Oct - 16:03
docmac wrote:maebee wrote:jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
There is some scary info in that blog, Maebee. More links to Masons etc too. You know, I have never really gone for the Mason conspiracy scenario in this case. But I had not seen this before...
Yes this photo is from the The Mccanns Abuse of Power - I wondered about this picture for a while - but it's actually from The Grand Priory The Knights Templar - now I don't know whether this is connected in any way to the Masons - maybe they are - but I don't think so - it is a Christian Society and they give humanitarian relief and promote inter-faith dialogue.
It's odd that it should be on the McCanns Abuse of Power site though - if it's not connected.
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Angelique wrote:docmac wrote:maebee wrote:jimuck wrote:Blair covering up paedophile scandal?' | www.tpuc.orgjimuck wrote:Tony Blairs right hand man PHILIP LYONS a convicted paedophile.
Tony Blair's closest confidante's is a practising paedophile, ... failing however to stop the arrest of one of his most important aides, Phillip Lyon. ...
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Thanks for this jimuck. You got me googling and I came up with this:
http://cuthulan.wordpress.com/2010/01/07/uk-government-blackmailed-into-war-blair-covers-mps-paedophile-ring-and-the-dunblane-massacre/
Since I started following Madeleine's case back in '07, my view of the world has changed. Up to then, I had very little knowledge of paedophiles and I honestly thought that they were one in a million, a rare aberration in the human race. I now know that they are everywhere, in every walk of life, from the top - the Clergy, Politicians, Judges right down to the creche workers like Vanessa George.
They can be found in every profession. Medicine included. :(
There is some scary info in that blog, Maebee. More links to Masons etc too. You know, I have never really gone for the Mason conspiracy scenario in this case. But I had not seen this before...
Yes this photo is from the The Mccanns Abuse of Power - I wondered about this picture for a while - but it's actually from The Grand Priory The Knights Templar - now I don't know whether this is connected in any way to the Masons - maybe they are - but I don't think so - it is a Christian Society and they give humanitarian relief and promote inter-faith dialogue.
It's odd that it should be on the McCanns Abuse of Power site though - if it's not connected.
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Porky Sun 31 Oct - 20:15
Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.
Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!
Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?
Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!
Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?
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docmac Sun 31 Oct - 20:34
Porky wrote:Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.
Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!
Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?
Porky, I strongly believe that what transpired in Portugal put a spanner in the works for someone who was about to leave someone else, if you get my drift.
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margaret Sun 31 Oct - 20:34
ah docmac don't feel bad, that's how this sort of scum goes undetected because people don't suspect them.
Funnily enough l was going to post about a man in our village l have known for a number of years, he's been subjected to an 'early morning raid', works van taken away and sacked from his job, turns out he's been accused of being a paedo (not yet charged but l can't see how it won't be) the thing that's struck me though is this.....
Lots of people didn't like this man he was a lecherous git, l never trusted him at all - funnily enough he's not adverse to making comments a bit like our old mate David Payne but to ADULTS. So how can DP possibly be innocent when he quite clearly says those things about a CHILD?
Glad your neighbour is dead docmac, sorry if that offends but at least he won't have a single penny wasted on him with court cases and jail, his victims can sleep tight knowing he can't hurt anyone else.
Funnily enough l was going to post about a man in our village l have known for a number of years, he's been subjected to an 'early morning raid', works van taken away and sacked from his job, turns out he's been accused of being a paedo (not yet charged but l can't see how it won't be) the thing that's struck me though is this.....
Lots of people didn't like this man he was a lecherous git, l never trusted him at all - funnily enough he's not adverse to making comments a bit like our old mate David Payne but to ADULTS. So how can DP possibly be innocent when he quite clearly says those things about a CHILD?
Glad your neighbour is dead docmac, sorry if that offends but at least he won't have a single penny wasted on him with court cases and jail, his victims can sleep tight knowing he can't hurt anyone else.
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docmac Sun 31 Oct - 20:46
margaret wrote:ah docmac don't feel bad, that's how this sort of scum goes undetected because people don't suspect them.
Funnily enough l was going to post about a man in our village l have known for a number of years, he's been subjected to an 'early morning raid', works van taken away and sacked from his job, turns out he's been accused of being a paedo (not yet charged but l can't see how it won't be) the thing that's struck me though is this.....
Lots of people didn't like this man he was a lecherous git, l never trusted him at all - funnily enough he's not adverse to making comments a bit like our old mate David Payne but to ADULTS. So how can DP possibly be innocent when he quite clearly says those things about a CHILD?
Glad your neighbour is dead docmac, sorry if that offends but at least he won't have a single penny wasted on him with court cases and jail, his victims can sleep tight knowing he can't hurt anyone else.
Doesn't offend me at all, Margaret. Now that the truth is out I feel the same way. As far as I am aware this is the first paedo I have come across outside of a hospital setting and he did not fit 'the picture' at all. Of course one might become even more distrusting of strangers if this sort is out there. It's a sobering experience.
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Porky Sun 31 Oct - 21:22
docmac wrote:Porky wrote:Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.
Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!
Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?
Porky, I strongly believe that what transpired in Portugal put a spanner in the works for someone who was about to leave someone else, if you get my drift.
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AnnaEsse Sun 31 Oct - 21:28
docmac wrote:Porky wrote:Docmac, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself if I were you for being acquainted with this apology for a human being.
Even couples who have been married for years have been known to discover some dark secret about their other half so if one can conceal certain traits from the person they live with then a neighbour is no problem. Who really knows the true self of even those close to us? Scarey stuff but nonetheless a fact of life!
Makes you wonder whether all is togetherness at Rothley Castle don't it?
Porky, I strongly believe that what transpired in Portugal put a spanner in the works for someone who was about to leave someone else, if you get my drift.
From the beginning I never saw those two as a close couple, especially when they never looked at each other during interviews: no supportive and caring glances. When Gonçalo Amaral was asked outside the court in Lisbon if he had seen the McCann couple, his response was that he had not seen 'any couple,' which imo was his way of saying they're not 'a couple.'
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