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jd16 wrote:cherry1 wrote:jd16 wrote:Lioned wrote:He looks a bit gay !
Looks like one of those joke sketches where some little scrote comes along and kicks him in the b*lls.
As long as he does his job on Sunday
Champions league....Sorry Arsenal this is now a distant memory just like winning trophies
Oophs..... Cherry is really going to go for me now!!! I am waiting hiding under cover
we will see who has the last laugh on Sunday jd! and it wont be you!
I'll be laughing all the way to the champions league!!
you wont be getting into Champions League cos we will be taking that place! we are coming through with a late run!
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Tottenham Hotspur Jokes
I met this really kinky girl last night. I asked her to humiliate me ... So she bought me a Tottenham shirt
What does a Spurs fan do after he sees his team win? Turns off the Xbox
A man was found dead floating in the Thames, wearing a blond wig, full make-up, bra, knickers, suspenders and a Spurs shirt. Before informing the next of kin the police removed the Spurs shirt to save the family embarrassment.
I met this really kinky girl last night. I asked her to humiliate me ... So she bought me a Tottenham shirt
What does a Spurs fan do after he sees his team win? Turns off the Xbox
A man was found dead floating in the Thames, wearing a blond wig, full make-up, bra, knickers, suspenders and a Spurs shirt. Before informing the next of kin the police removed the Spurs shirt to save the family embarrassment.
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cherry1 wrote:Tottenham Hotspur Jokes
I met this really kinky girl last night. I asked her to humiliate me ... So she bought me a Tottenham shirt
What does a Spurs fan do after he sees his team win? Turns off the Xbox
A man was found dead floating in the Thames, wearing a blond wig, full make-up, bra, knickers, suspenders and a Spurs shirt. Before informing the next of kin the police removed the Spurs shirt to save the family embarrassment.
remember the mobot dance at the final whistle!
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Never mind all that jumped up overrated premiershit stuff.No English club is going to win the Champions League for many years anyway so why bother.
Biggest game this weekend is at Elland Road tomorrow.
The only London team likely to be making a Wembley appearance this season is Millwall,so make of that whatever you like.
Biggest game this weekend is at Elland Road tomorrow.
The only London team likely to be making a Wembley appearance this season is Millwall,so make of that whatever you like.
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Don't worry Lioned...Cherry will be quiet by Sunday night!!! eating lots of humble pie
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you hope!
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cherry1 wrote: you hope!
I am hoping actually...otherwise it will be me eating the pie!
Its gonna be a draw now!!
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When we win we will be only one point behind Spurs!
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cherry1 wrote:When we win we will be only one point behind Spurs!
4+3 = 7 to me
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jd16 wrote:cherry1 wrote: you hope!
I am hoping actually...otherwise it will be me eating the pie!
Its gonna be a draw now!!
I wouldnt eat any pie in case its filled with horse meat!
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have you heard what is the difference between a triangle and Tottenham Hopspur?
A triangle has 3 points
A triangle has 3 points
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Millwall are only one game away from Wembley.
Oh yes who is it we'll have to beat,Blackburn isn't it ? Now i wonder how good they are ?
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Well lets hope Millwall do get to Wembley lioned - it may be their one and only chance!
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I have seen Millwall play at Wembley (new and old) at Millenium Cardiff v's Man U,and in Europe cup against Ferancvaros.So i am sure i will see them playing in big games again.Its so much more exciting when it is unexpected.
Trouble with some Prem league clubs is they think they have a divine right to success and thats why most fans are forever disappointed at their 'underachievements'.
Trouble with some Prem league clubs is they think they have a divine right to success and thats why most fans are forever disappointed at their 'underachievements'.
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Yep Im sure jd knows all about Spurs underachieving, at least after Sunday I hope he will
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I heard a rumour that both Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott have asked for a transfer to Millwall as they both want to win some trophies.
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Lioned wrote:I heard a rumour that both Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott have asked for a transfer to Millwall as they both want to win some trophies.
Were you last night Lioned?
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cherry1 wrote:Yep Im sure jd knows all about Spurs underachieving, at least after Sunday I hope he will
Getting warmed up...
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jd16 wrote:Lioned wrote:I heard a rumour that both Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott have asked for a transfer to Millwall as they both want to win some trophies.
Were you last night Lioned?
May have had a few brandys.
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Arsenal poised to be subjected to £1.5 bn takeover bid
Arsenal poised to be subjected to £1.5bn takeover bid from Middle East
consortium within the next few weeks
The world’s biggest ever bid for a football club, dwarfing the £800 million
paid by the Glazers for Manchester United, will be backed by funds from Qatar
and the United Arab Emirates.
Wanted: the potential backers of
a Middle East consortium would want Arsène Wenger to remain at the Emirates
Stadium Photo:
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By Jason Burt, Football
Correspondent
10:00PM GMT 02 Mar 2013
163 Comments
The group do not want their identities made public yet but a bid source told
Telegraph Sport the intention is to buy out Arsenal’s American owner,
Stan Kroenke, whose perceived weak stewardship of the club has also been called
into question by frustrated supporter groups.
The cash offer, which is more than twice the amount at which Arsenal were
valued two years ago, will be for 100 per cent of the club, and if successful
would wipe out debts that stand at around £250 million according to the last
full year’s financial results.
According to a bid source, there would be substantial transfer funds made
available to transform the club into a major force in European and world
football. There would also be a pledge to reduce ticket prices at the Emirates
Stadium — currently among the highest in the world — as well as an attempt to
recreate “some of the feel of the old North Bank” at Highbury.
The bid team has noted the damage caused by Kroenke, who owns two-thirds of
the club, refusing to engage with Uzbek billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who owns
29.96 per cent.
The bidders would like to unite the ownership, putting all the shares
together in one fund. The offer will be for the full 62,217 shares which have
been issued, but effectively it will be to buy out Kroenke, in the first
instance, paying around £830 million for his 66.83 per cent shareholding
(41,581). The offer equates to around £20,000 per share.
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The deal would provide the American with an approximate profit of £400
million given the majority owner is believed to have paid around £430 million to
build his stake in the club since he first became involved in 2007. When Kroenke
made his mandatory cash offer for Arsenal in April 2011, buying up the stakes
owned by Danny Fiszman and Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith, it valued the club at £731
million.
A meeting has already been requested with the American to discuss the
proposed offer. The seriousness of the bid is reinforced by the recent
successful takeovers of Manchester City and Paris St-Germain by Middle East
backers.
It is unlikely Usmanov will want to sell his shareholding, given his “dream”
of taking control of Arsenal himself, but the Middle East consortium believes it
will be able to work with the billionaire, who does not currently have a seat on
the board and who has been frustrated in his attempts to get more involved.
Any takeover would inevitably raise questions over the future of manager
Arsène Wenger, although the Frenchman is understood to be highly-regarded by the
consortium They do not want to lose his football knowledge and want him to
remain at the club.
But they are well aware that the last trophy won was the 2005 FA Cup and that
Arsenal have become less of a rival to the Premier League's top clubs. They
believe that the club have settled for relative mediocrity.
Arsenal travel on Sunday to north London rivals Tottenham with the club in a
desperate fight to finish in the top four of the Premier League and qualify for
next season’s Champions League. Arsenal currently lie in fifth place, four
points behind their neighbours.
Despite protestations to the contrary, failure to qualify for the Champions
League would undoubtedly have serious ramifications for Arsenal, who have been
in Europe’s premier club competition for the past 16 years under Wenger.
A bid source told Telegraph Sport: “Arsenal is at a pivotal position
at the moment. The fear is that the club is facing a cycle of decline like
Liverpool. From our point of view it is the perfect moment to make this bid
because at this moment in time you can still genuinely justify this
extraordinary valuation on the club.
“We will not bid for Arsenal if they go into decline. Kroenke and Usmanov
will not get this kind of valuation if Arsenal do not succeed and will not get
this kind of valuation ever again.
“We think that bidding now is the key because it is going to give every
shareholder maximum value. We are giving them peak valuation.
“The amount of capital required to pump into Arsenal to make it competitive
within England, Europe and the world means that the valuation cannot go any
higher.”
It makes the prospect of a gargantuan bid to buy the club all the more
tantalising for frustrated Arsenal supporters.
“No big club can go eight years without winning anything,” the source added.
“No manager of a big club, not even Sir Alex Ferguson, would have survived eight
years without winning.” It is not an unreasonable statement.
Whether Wenger would voluntarily stay and work under a new regime is another
question. Should a bid prove successful, Wenger would be in an awkward position,
having previously criticised clubs with wealthy owners, accusing them of
“financial doping”, although he has strong links with Paris St-Germain who, of
course, also have Qatari owners.
Wenger’s current contract runs until June 2014 and it is understood that as
things stand he has no intention of quitting even if Arsenal finish outside the
top four, although he has faced growing calls to go.
The proposed new owners claim they are serious in their desire to turn
Arsenal into a force again and also to do it in the right way. They say they do
not want to acquire the club to make money but to invest.
The bid group believe that the ownership of Kroenke and his son and heir,
Josh, has been at the heart of the club’s lack of competitiveness. They have
also identified a lack of experience in football as a significant barrier to
success.
“The biggest problem with Arsenal is that it has no owner, no face and there
is no one to report to,” the bid source claimed. “The management of the club at
every level is not put under scrutiny and does not have to report to anyone.”
The inference is that neither Kroenke nor his son has a feel for Arsenal – a
claim which has been lent weight by the former’s low profile at the Emirates
Stadium – and that the current board lacks strength and leadership.
Chief executive Ivan Gazidis has been criticised for being too deferential
towards Wenger, who enjoys a huge amount of control at Arsenal.
Supporters have complained that Kroenke is not a visible presence and has not
met directly with them since the takeover, although he has attended recent home
games against Bayern Munich and Aston Villa. His reign at the club has come
under criticism from fans at successive annual meetings.
Arsenal currently have a clear, self-sustaining structure, rejecting the
benefactor model, with Wenger, the board and majority owner believing their
approach will eventually succeed, especially with the incoming Uefa Financial
Fair Play rules.
But there are genuine fears among fans that Arsenal are simply slipping away
and becoming less competitive.
If successful, the bid would almost certainly take Arsenal to another level.
The prospective owners claim their intention is to turn Arsenal into a major
force in European football; one that will compete with Manchester United and
Manchester City for the Premier League title and with Barcelona, Bayern Munich,
Real Madrid and PSG in the Champions League.
Given the nature and structure of the funding, the bidders say they are
confident they will still be able to comply with FFP.
It is understood that they wish to maintain a degree of stability at the
club, despite the upheaval of a takeover, although there would be a new board
and, in all probability, a new chief executive as it is understood that Gazidis
would be unlikely to be retained.
The bid team regard Arsenal as one of the great clubs of European football
but also one that is no longer punching its weight and is in danger of falling
behind.
Arsenal’s failure to hang on to their top talent has been a source of major
unease at the club. Losing Holland international striker Robin van Persie — who
left for Manchester United criticising a lack of ambition – Spain international
Cesc Fabregas and France international Samir Nasri all hit hard.
The prospective owners claim there would be a firm commitment to a model of
developing and keeping young players but also, and as a priority, to
strengthening the squad so that those players, such as Jack Wilshere, have no
reason to leave in the future.
Wenger believes he has a core of a squad that can challenge but this is not a
universally-held opinion with doubts over the strength of the spine of the team.
Even his most fervent supporters struggle to make a case that Wenger is on
the verge of creating another great team or that the squad has depth and quality
to compete despite a high wage bill.
The Middle East consortium claim to sympathise with Arsenal supporters and
their contention that many of them have been priced out of following their club.
Supporters groups have already warned that generations of fans could be lost.
Ticket prices, among the highest in the world and an increasingly contentious
issue, will be reduced, the bid source said, and there will be an attempt to
recreate “some of the feel of the old North Bank” at Highbury within the
Emirates Stadium.
The bid source added there was a real desire to “bring back some of the true
supporters” who have been priced out or become disillusioned.
The disillusionment is undoubtedly there. Cup defeats to Bradford City and
Blackburn Rovers heightened that sense as did the humiliating Champions League
3-1 defeat to Bayern Munich at the Emirates a fortnight ago, when the German
side played with a verve and tempo Arsenal no longer recognise.
Finishing outside the top four would compound it even more especially if the
proposed takeover is rejected. That would further increase the pressure on
Kroenke in particular.
consortium within the next few weeks
The world’s biggest ever bid for a football club, dwarfing the £800 million
paid by the Glazers for Manchester United, will be backed by funds from Qatar
and the United Arab Emirates.
Wanted: the potential backers of
a Middle East consortium would want Arsène Wenger to remain at the Emirates
Stadium Photo:
REUTERS
By Jason Burt, Football
Correspondent
10:00PM GMT 02 Mar 2013
163 Comments
The group do not want their identities made public yet but a bid source told
Telegraph Sport the intention is to buy out Arsenal’s American owner,
Stan Kroenke, whose perceived weak stewardship of the club has also been called
into question by frustrated supporter groups.
The cash offer, which is more than twice the amount at which Arsenal were
valued two years ago, will be for 100 per cent of the club, and if successful
would wipe out debts that stand at around £250 million according to the last
full year’s financial results.
According to a bid source, there would be substantial transfer funds made
available to transform the club into a major force in European and world
football. There would also be a pledge to reduce ticket prices at the Emirates
Stadium — currently among the highest in the world — as well as an attempt to
recreate “some of the feel of the old North Bank” at Highbury.
The bid team has noted the damage caused by Kroenke, who owns two-thirds of
the club, refusing to engage with Uzbek billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who owns
29.96 per cent.
The bidders would like to unite the ownership, putting all the shares
together in one fund. The offer will be for the full 62,217 shares which have
been issued, but effectively it will be to buy out Kroenke, in the first
instance, paying around £830 million for his 66.83 per cent shareholding
(41,581). The offer equates to around £20,000 per share.
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The deal would provide the American with an approximate profit of £400
million given the majority owner is believed to have paid around £430 million to
build his stake in the club since he first became involved in 2007. When Kroenke
made his mandatory cash offer for Arsenal in April 2011, buying up the stakes
owned by Danny Fiszman and Lady Nina Bracewell-Smith, it valued the club at £731
million.
A meeting has already been requested with the American to discuss the
proposed offer. The seriousness of the bid is reinforced by the recent
successful takeovers of Manchester City and Paris St-Germain by Middle East
backers.
It is unlikely Usmanov will want to sell his shareholding, given his “dream”
of taking control of Arsenal himself, but the Middle East consortium believes it
will be able to work with the billionaire, who does not currently have a seat on
the board and who has been frustrated in his attempts to get more involved.
Any takeover would inevitably raise questions over the future of manager
Arsène Wenger, although the Frenchman is understood to be highly-regarded by the
consortium They do not want to lose his football knowledge and want him to
remain at the club.
But they are well aware that the last trophy won was the 2005 FA Cup and that
Arsenal have become less of a rival to the Premier League's top clubs. They
believe that the club have settled for relative mediocrity.
Arsenal travel on Sunday to north London rivals Tottenham with the club in a
desperate fight to finish in the top four of the Premier League and qualify for
next season’s Champions League. Arsenal currently lie in fifth place, four
points behind their neighbours.
Despite protestations to the contrary, failure to qualify for the Champions
League would undoubtedly have serious ramifications for Arsenal, who have been
in Europe’s premier club competition for the past 16 years under Wenger.
A bid source told Telegraph Sport: “Arsenal is at a pivotal position
at the moment. The fear is that the club is facing a cycle of decline like
Liverpool. From our point of view it is the perfect moment to make this bid
because at this moment in time you can still genuinely justify this
extraordinary valuation on the club.
“We will not bid for Arsenal if they go into decline. Kroenke and Usmanov
will not get this kind of valuation if Arsenal do not succeed and will not get
this kind of valuation ever again.
“We think that bidding now is the key because it is going to give every
shareholder maximum value. We are giving them peak valuation.
“The amount of capital required to pump into Arsenal to make it competitive
within England, Europe and the world means that the valuation cannot go any
higher.”
It makes the prospect of a gargantuan bid to buy the club all the more
tantalising for frustrated Arsenal supporters.
“No big club can go eight years without winning anything,” the source added.
“No manager of a big club, not even Sir Alex Ferguson, would have survived eight
years without winning.” It is not an unreasonable statement.
Whether Wenger would voluntarily stay and work under a new regime is another
question. Should a bid prove successful, Wenger would be in an awkward position,
having previously criticised clubs with wealthy owners, accusing them of
“financial doping”, although he has strong links with Paris St-Germain who, of
course, also have Qatari owners.
Wenger’s current contract runs until June 2014 and it is understood that as
things stand he has no intention of quitting even if Arsenal finish outside the
top four, although he has faced growing calls to go.
The proposed new owners claim they are serious in their desire to turn
Arsenal into a force again and also to do it in the right way. They say they do
not want to acquire the club to make money but to invest.
The bid group believe that the ownership of Kroenke and his son and heir,
Josh, has been at the heart of the club’s lack of competitiveness. They have
also identified a lack of experience in football as a significant barrier to
success.
“The biggest problem with Arsenal is that it has no owner, no face and there
is no one to report to,” the bid source claimed. “The management of the club at
every level is not put under scrutiny and does not have to report to anyone.”
The inference is that neither Kroenke nor his son has a feel for Arsenal – a
claim which has been lent weight by the former’s low profile at the Emirates
Stadium – and that the current board lacks strength and leadership.
Chief executive Ivan Gazidis has been criticised for being too deferential
towards Wenger, who enjoys a huge amount of control at Arsenal.
Supporters have complained that Kroenke is not a visible presence and has not
met directly with them since the takeover, although he has attended recent home
games against Bayern Munich and Aston Villa. His reign at the club has come
under criticism from fans at successive annual meetings.
Arsenal currently have a clear, self-sustaining structure, rejecting the
benefactor model, with Wenger, the board and majority owner believing their
approach will eventually succeed, especially with the incoming Uefa Financial
Fair Play rules.
But there are genuine fears among fans that Arsenal are simply slipping away
and becoming less competitive.
If successful, the bid would almost certainly take Arsenal to another level.
The prospective owners claim their intention is to turn Arsenal into a major
force in European football; one that will compete with Manchester United and
Manchester City for the Premier League title and with Barcelona, Bayern Munich,
Real Madrid and PSG in the Champions League.
Given the nature and structure of the funding, the bidders say they are
confident they will still be able to comply with FFP.
It is understood that they wish to maintain a degree of stability at the
club, despite the upheaval of a takeover, although there would be a new board
and, in all probability, a new chief executive as it is understood that Gazidis
would be unlikely to be retained.
The bid team regard Arsenal as one of the great clubs of European football
but also one that is no longer punching its weight and is in danger of falling
behind.
Arsenal’s failure to hang on to their top talent has been a source of major
unease at the club. Losing Holland international striker Robin van Persie — who
left for Manchester United criticising a lack of ambition – Spain international
Cesc Fabregas and France international Samir Nasri all hit hard.
The prospective owners claim there would be a firm commitment to a model of
developing and keeping young players but also, and as a priority, to
strengthening the squad so that those players, such as Jack Wilshere, have no
reason to leave in the future.
Wenger believes he has a core of a squad that can challenge but this is not a
universally-held opinion with doubts over the strength of the spine of the team.
Even his most fervent supporters struggle to make a case that Wenger is on
the verge of creating another great team or that the squad has depth and quality
to compete despite a high wage bill.
The Middle East consortium claim to sympathise with Arsenal supporters and
their contention that many of them have been priced out of following their club.
Supporters groups have already warned that generations of fans could be lost.
Ticket prices, among the highest in the world and an increasingly contentious
issue, will be reduced, the bid source said, and there will be an attempt to
recreate “some of the feel of the old North Bank” at Highbury within the
Emirates Stadium.
The bid source added there was a real desire to “bring back some of the true
supporters” who have been priced out or become disillusioned.
The disillusionment is undoubtedly there. Cup defeats to Bradford City and
Blackburn Rovers heightened that sense as did the humiliating Champions League
3-1 defeat to Bayern Munich at the Emirates a fortnight ago, when the German
side played with a verve and tempo Arsenal no longer recognise.
Finishing outside the top four would compound it even more especially if the
proposed takeover is rejected. That would further increase the pressure on
Kroenke in particular.
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Let's hope the takeover doesn't result in what happened to Cardiff. the Club was taken over by a Chinese guy who first of all ordered the Team to wear Red shirts because that was the colour of China , notwithstanding that Cardiff City was called the Cardiff Blues because of their shirts. Now he wants a Dragon on the shirt and for Cardiff to be known as the Cardiff Dragons.!!!!!
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The greedy money hungry shareholders should have realised that those who pay the piper calls the tune.Panda wrote:Let's hope the takeover doesn't result in what happened to Cardiff. the Club was taken over by a Chinese guy who first of all ordered the Team to wear Red shirts because that was the colour of China , notwithstanding that Cardiff City was called the Cardiff Blues because of their shirts. Now he wants a Dragon on the shirt and for Cardiff to be known as the Cardiff Dragons.!!!!!
I must state again that I'm in no way a racist, but our entire Football League resembles The League of Nations. So why should supporters bother who owns the clubs, grounds and players they pay a fortune to go and watch?
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malena, Football is not a Sport anymore it is big Business, no training for youngsters to introduce homegrown talent, pay several thousand to buy a Foreign Player. To add insult to injury, Arsenal players have their wages paid into a Bank in Jersey called the Benevolent something so they don't have to pay Tax. !!!! The poor supporters not only have to pay to see the match but Players strips are changed very often so that is another expense.malena stool wrote:The greedy money hungry shareholders should have realised that those who pay the piper calls the tune.Panda wrote:Let's hope the takeover doesn't result in what happened to Cardiff. the Club was taken over by a Chinese guy who first of all ordered the Team to wear Red shirts because that was the colour of China , notwithstanding that Cardiff City was called the Cardiff Blues because of their shirts. Now he wants a Dragon on the shirt and for Cardiff to be known as the Cardiff Dragons.!!!!!
I must state again that I'm in no way a racist, but our entire Football League resembles The League of Nations. So why should supporters bother who owns the clubs, grounds and players they pay a fortune to go and watch?
I know that Football players have a short career span , but about 20 years , plenty of time to save for retirement with their kind of wages.
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