Madeleine McCann: Key Details 'Were Wrong'

In the re-CON think we'll see JW/GM 'chatting' right outside gateway to 5A?

As reported on BBC in news, yesterday.

Totally discrediting McS claim to 'crossing the street', in books and on TV and video, to talk with Wilkins.

In Panorama Nov 2007 the BBC totally 'misplaced' Wilkins.

Will they dare do it again?

On daybreak this morning they said 4 hours before madeliene went missing she was ball girl at gerry's tennis match, i fear whitewash

chrissie1 wrote:On daybreak this morning they said 4 hours before madeliene went missing she was ball girl at gerry's tennis match, i fear whitewash

If they are going to deviate so much from the original script, and they seem to be acknowledging they are going to do so, new timeline etc., they will surely need to give an explanation as to why. It will not be good enough to blame the PJ with some stupid reason like the wrong day of the week was translated, I think things have opened up a little too much for that to wash. What are they going to say ?

I have a strange feeling tanner might end up with egg on her face and be used as a fall girl yet again.

chrissie1 wrote:On daybreak this morning they said 4 hours before madeliene went missing she was ball girl at gerry's tennis match, i fear whitewash

I think 'whitewash' is inevitable, it's been whitewash from day one and has continued to be whitewash ever since. What we don't know is why, but there has to be a reason. When you think that the tapas lot were allowed to read each other's statements, that alone should have set alarm bells ringing in the law courts. Now they are actually changing timelines after all these years and to quote a well known phrase 'I'm sorry but' the whole affair really stinks of corruption.

SY must know about what Kate McCann said about 3rd may and in her book....it was 5.30pm, Madeleine was tired and wanted me to carry her home .



BOTH the mccanns went to 5a and at 6pm Gerry McCann went for his tennis lesson.


Is that changing now to the twins stayed in the apt and Gerry took Madeleine to the tennis court to be ball girl?

SY is contradicting Kate mccanns book...

kitti wrote:SY is contradicting Kate mccanns book...

But how do they justify their contradiction ? Do they blame the PJ, blame the tapas group as they were so grief stricken they got confused or do they not justify the change at all ?

kitti wrote:SY is contradicting Kate mccanns book...

EXACTLY! And McCann is just letting them plod along basically saying her 'version of the truth' is a load of lies!
Do SY forget that her book was sold in many countries and they a saying its all sh*te!!
I suppose she's going along with it now, because its been pointed out to her that the original timeline could never have worked!!

mossman wrote:

kitti wrote:SY is contradicting Kate mccanns book...

But how do they justify their contradiction ?  Do they blame the PJ, blame the tapas group as they were so grief stricken they got confused or do they not justify the change at all ?

Small point, but as the tapas group comprised of mainly medical
professionals who would be trained and experienced in dealing
appropriately in such alarming circumstances, and the importance
of keeping timely and accurate records, I'm not sure how SY can
ignore such accounts, not unless they figure that it was all a lie.

I still don't know if Crimewatch are now saying the tennis balls incident took place on 3rd May or on an earlier day.  But as for the evening they are focusing on 8.30-10.00 so I can't see how things can change that much.  And how it would matter.

Aren't they showing Kate and Gerry playing tennis and Madeleine being a ball girl? Maybe its from another night?

On BBC 1 o'clock news they said the 9.15pm sighting has now been discredited and they think it happened closer to 10pm. Wonder what Tanner will think about her information being discredited!

looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

I almost feel sorry for her.

So that moves us to the Smith sighting.......but that's not good if you are Gerry McCann. We cannot blame a translation issue in his second statement, he did that statement at home in Ireland.

I posted this on another thread but it seems it is the Smith sighting that is being referred to http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5199791/We-saw-him-carrying-girl-like-Maddie-down-empty-side-street.html

So the 2 sightings were by 2 people from the same family? I asked on the other thread if there was any media reporting that Mr Smith had said it was possibly Gerry he saw carrying the child? You would think it would be mentioned now even if it was said that he had an alibi for being elsewhere at that time so had been discounted.

mossman wrote:

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

I almost feel sorry for her.

So that moves us to the Smith sighting.......but that's not good if you are Gerry McCann.  We cannot blame a translation issue in his second statement, he did that statement at home in Ireland.  

She deliberately lied to cover up the concealment of the death of a small child. I have no sympathy for her at all. You can't lie down with dogs and then complain later when you've got fleas.

Iris wrote:

mossman wrote:

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

I almost feel sorry for her.

So that moves us to the Smith sighting.......but that's not good if you are Gerry McCann.  We cannot blame a translation issue in his second statement, he did that statement at home in Ireland.  

She deliberately lied to cover up the concealment of the death of a small child.  I have no sympathy for her at all.  You can't lie down with dogs and then complain later when you've got fleas.

I did say "almost" Iris  

mossman wrote:

Iris wrote:

mossman wrote:

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

I almost feel sorry for her.

So that moves us to the Smith sighting.......but that's not good if you are Gerry McCann.  We cannot blame a translation issue in his second statement, he did that statement at home in Ireland.  

She deliberately lied to cover up the concealment of the death of a small child.  I have no sympathy for her at all.  You can't lie down with dogs and then complain later when you've got fleas.

I did say "almost" Iris  

She lied like a bear rug (with fleas), and that's for sure!

im not entirely sure that she lied.  she may have seen a man carrying a child - its written on the timelineline isn't it on one of the back covers. Is it possible she had been encouraged to broaden her sighting over time. regardless of anything else she did say she saw G and Jez Wilkins, how would she know that?

tanszi wrote:im not entirely sure that she lied.  she may have seen a man carrying a child - its written on the timelineline isn't it on one of the back covers. Is it possible she had been encouraged to broaden her sighting over time.  regardless of anything else she did say she saw G and Jez Wilkins, how would she know that?

But I believe Jez said he did not see her.

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

After Jane Tanner's repeated statements about having definitely seen Madeleine in those pyjamas (after starting off with a man carrying a bundle that could have been a child) she has some answers to give. Wasn't there a waiter who said JT had never left the table? Well, none of us here placed any credibility on JT's sighting and we were, of course, right. Gonçalo had wanted to get the Smiths back and he has been exonerated, though some are blaming the Portuguese police for not following this up. SY could wonder why the McCanns never asked for an E-fit from the Smiths' sighting.

In reply to David A agree Jez said he didn't see her, but how did she know they were there, standing where she described, and has G McC denied seeing her?

AnnaEsse a very good question, why have the McCs never asked for a photofit of this person to be broadcast. to me one looks like G McC and the other Jez Wilkins.

I still think this is a huge PR scheme designed to free the McCs from any involvement in Madeleines disappearance, its failing badly looking at so many of the comments on different media outlets.

AnnaEsse wrote:

cass wrote:looks like tanner is being chucked under a bus - but not in the real sence -- oh dear - i know one can loose track of time but this is a lot on her shoulders - jane if i was you love i would be phoning sy crimewatch tonight

After Jane Tanner's repeated statements about having definitely seen Madeleine in those pyjamas (after starting off with a man carrying a bundle that could have been a child) she has some answers to give. Wasn't there a waiter who said JT had never left the table? Well, none of us here placed any credibility on JT's sighting and we were, of course, right. Gonçalo had wanted to get the Smiths back and he has been exonerated, though some are blaming the Portuguese police for not following this up. SY could wonder why the McCanns never asked for an E-fit from the Smiths' sighting.

Exactly what I said earlier, Anna!  

wonder if anyone high up in portugal will be interviewed about the crimewatch programme - and what they think of it

cass wrote:wonder if anyone high up in portugal will be interviewed about the crimewatch programme - and what they think of it

Too much class to lower themselves!