The E1.7 billion the EU demands by Britain

fuzeta wrote:Well it seems nobody has been fooled by these shenanigans.  According to the papers, we were due half of that amount back in a future rebate anyway. They have brought that forward to knock it off the bill.   So the fact is we are still paying the 1.7b Marvellous.

Well it seems you're right -again- No one is fooled or at least no one with an IQ greater than a hedgehogs should be. They have obviously known about this aspect fro days themselves and knew perfectly well they were going to make political capital out of it. look what we've done for you.

For me it actually shows two things one being that we could easily leave the EU, and trade with it from the outside as Switzerland and many other countries do without forking over eye watering amounts of money to the never ending Brussels black hole, or the sleaze and corruption.

Secondly I was wrong about our politicians. There is one career they could pursue and be world class in, Film actor. That Cameron and Osborne could stand there - sober as far as I could tell- and spout such brazen nonsense with a straight face. It is not given to many of us to be able to lie like that without showing at least a tic at the corner of the mouth. As Sir John Gielgud may have said Mr. Cameron, I salute a fellow and far superior thespian.

You are right, how on earth did they keep a straight face. They obviously think that we cannot do simple sums. They think we can only mark bits of paper with a cross. That's enough for them, no more is needed. No wonder the education system is going to the dogs. They would prefer it if we could not read as well.

http://news.sky.com/story/1369482/osborne-claims-real-win-over-1-7bn-eu-bill.

They have fooled no one though , MP's, Reporters, analysts alike ....note how Osborne says the next payment is AFTER the General Election . How can anyone trust Politicians when many are dishonest and the rest incompetent. Britain has one of the lowest voting records , 46% for a General Election .!!!

fuzeta wrote:  You are right, how on earth did they keep a straight face.   They obviously think that we cannot do simple sums. They think we can only mark bits of paper with a cross. That's enough for them, no more is needed.  No wonder the education system is going to the dogs. They would prefer it if we could not read as well.

Exactly so. That is all they require from us Plebs. a cross in a box. Unfortunately it would spoil the paper or I would be highly tempted to put my name down the cross, and underneath that his mark. Very unfortunately for them ,I am no longer able to spell Conservative, Liberal Democrat, or socialist. UKIP is as much as I can manage. They may turn out to be as venal and as self serving as the others, I have no way of knowing, but that aside, they do represent our best hope. Of course it may and probably is already too late, but that is again down to those parties I can no longer spell.

katertaif wrote:

fuzeta wrote:  You are right, how on earth did they keep a straight face.   They obviously think that we cannot do simple sums. They think we can only mark bits of paper with a cross. That's enough for them, no more is needed.  No wonder the education system is going to the dogs. They would prefer it if we could not read as well.

Exactly so. That is all they require from us Plebs. a cross in a box. Unfortunately it would spoil the paper or I would be highly tempted to put my name down the cross, and underneath that his mark. Very unfortunately for them ,I am no longer able to spell Conservative, Liberal Democrat, or socialist. UKIP is as much as I can manage. They may turn out to be as venal and as self serving as the others, I have no way of knowing, but that aside, they do represent our best hope. Of course it may and probably is already too late, but that is again down to those parties I can no longer spell.

and what, may i ask, is meant by "represent our best hope"?

didn't think so.

Is it greed that some MP's cheat on their expenses when they earn a very good salary? What makes them feel that if they are elected the Country will do well. ? What makes them think "I can do that" , without any experience?

Tony Blair has done more damage to Government than any PM , the worst thing he did was getting rid of the regular meetings with Civil Servants who knew more than any Politician , "Yes Minister" was a very funny example of that. He still offers advice (don't laugh) pretends to be a roving Ambassador , the man is a disgrace.