Re: Sky Live Day 1 - 12/01/10

roseland69 Tue 12 Jan - 14:57

fedrules wrote:I'm afraid I have to rain on the parade here. The headline about Maddie having died in the flat is in inverted commas, which means, in media speak, it is not an established fact. Everything that we have heard today has been reported in the media at one stage or another during the last 2.5 years so IMO, unless Amaral has something up his sleeve, some new evidence to reopen the case, then things will continue as they are now ad infinitum..i.e. many will believe that Maddie did indeed die in the flat, but nobody will be able to prove it..

I really hope GA has something new and vital to tell the court...

I agree with you. I can't see any of the main broadcasters doing anything but tow the party line after so many years of doing so. That's not to say they can't get in little digs here and there with ambiguous headlines that make people double take. They are very aware that not everyone is behind this couple. But sadly the likes of Carter Ruck will deter editors from sticking their neck out. It was ever thus with this case.

bootsy Tue 12 Jan - 14:59

Would this judge be able to reopen the case

**Christine** Tue 12 Jan - 15:00

Can Amaral present new evidence in the case in this hearing?? I doubt it, since this is about the libel and the fact that he followed the PJ files.

**halfamo** Tue 12 Jan - 15:02

No idea Christine,but i'm off for a while back to Sky.

Roasted Arizona Tue 12 Jan - 15:04

Fedrules, I think we all realise that, but the point is, it's being aired as a possibility again. Slightly ironic given that the supposed point of the McCann's taking this case to court is because they don't want the world to believe she is dead!

**fedrules** Tue 12 Jan - 15:04

Yes, the media have often had little digs at the McCanns and this sensational headline is another one..no doubt tomorrow there'll be similar ones referring to Amaral as a 'disgraced' or 'corrupt' cop, more than likely without the disclaiming inverted commas this time...
The media are prevented from doing more by the UK's draconian libel laws, although ,of course, the 'innocent until proven guilty' ideal also has something to do with it..
All the media can do is drop subtle hints with unflattering photos or cases regarding child abuse/neglect appearing on the same page as a McCann story...

**Alpine Aster** Tue 12 Jan - 15:06

halfamo wrote:No idea Christine,but i'm off for a while back to Sky.

Hi Mo \o, I hope you are feeling better now?, a very interesting day Today, its all coming out somethings that People who have never read the Police Files will now hear and see.
RIP Madeleine you never deserved what happened to you.

Guest Tue 12 Jan - 15:07

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Guest Tue 12 Jan - 15:08

Sorry I've just tried the link and it's unavailable at the moment because it's so busy. I think a lot of people are trying to access the information. It is a statement made in court by a witness that the police believed that Madeleine died in the apartment. It looks like the case will not go the Mc Canns way and even if it does I can't see people still donating money to the fund after this and other information comes out. It looks like their charade may be slowly coming to an end. The investigation must be re-opened whatever the outcome of the libel case. IMHO.
My heart has been broken again with this news that the police are fairly certain she died in the apartment. I thought I would have been used to the idea of her having passed away by now, but it really hurts today. Sorry for being so emotional. xx
Poor little soul. R.I.P. Madeleine xx

All my very best wishes from Rose xx

Guest Tue 12 Jan - 15:09

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**fedrules** Tue 12 Jan - 15:09

Roasted Arizona wrote:Fedrules, I think we all realise that, but the point is, it's being aired as a possibility again. Slightly ironic given that the supposed point of the McCann's taking this case to court is because they don't want the world to believe she is dead!

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It's just easy to get carried away in these circumstances. I agree about the irony, but, of course their aim has always been very different from the stated one!!

**halfamo** Tue 12 Jan - 15:12

Alpine Aster wrote:
halfamo wrote:No idea Christine,but i'm off for a while back to Sky.

Hi Mo \o, I hope you are feeling better now?, a very interesting day Today, its all coming out somethings that People who have never read the Police Files will now hear and see.
RIP Madeleine you never deserved what happened to you.

Not so bad A.A. Its surely good to know others will be able to hear this. I've got one ear to the Chilcott inquiry and keeping an eye on Sky while baking a rice pudding ,home made is always best.

Roasted Arizona Tue 12 Jan - 15:13

fedrules wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:Fedrules, I think we all realise that, but the point is, it's being aired as a possibility again. Slightly ironic given that the supposed point of the McCann's taking this case to court is because they don't want the world to believe she is dead!
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It's just easy to get carried away in these circumstances. I agree about the irony, but, of course their aim has always been very different from the stated one!!

Absolutely!!! Couldn't agree more!

**fedrules** Tue 12 Jan - 15:14

I'm pretty certain now that the release of the sniffer dog video was a damage limitation exercise by Team McCann..Imagine what a bombshell it would have been if the sniffer dogs's indications suddenly emerged out of the blue now!¨They've done the same with Mrs Fenn's statement and the Smith family sighting IMO.

**RIORITA** Tue 12 Jan - 15:14

MoondampRoses wrote:Sorry I've just tried the link and it's unavailable at the moment because it's so busy. I think a lot of people are trying to access the information. It is a statement made in court by a witness that the police believed that Madeleine died in the apartment. It looks like the case will not go the Mc Canns way and even if it does I can't see people still donating money to the fund after this and other information comes out. It looks like their charade may be slowly coming to an end. The investigation must be re-opened whatever the outcome of the libel case. IMHO.
My heart has been broken again with this news that the police are fairly certain she died in the apartment. I thought I would have been used to the idea of her having passed away by now, but it really hurts today. Sorry for being so emotional. xx
Poor little soul. R.I.P. Madeleine xx

All my very best wishes from Rose xx

MoondampRoses Don't apolgise for having a good heart Sky Live Day 1 - 12/01/10 - Page 16 Icon_flower

**HiDeHo** Tue 12 Jan - 15:18

I have just sent a Sky link to the head booker for the Nancy Grace Show.

She was, initially, extremely interested when I spoke to her on the phone to give her link to the Documentary last April but she emailed back within 20 mins to say 'the were going to pass'. (very 'curious' I thought)

Let's see if her interest has recovered!

**fedrules** Tue 12 Jan - 15:20

I wonder how the McCanns have been looking while the witness has been testifying-confident or nervous?

**AnnaEsse** Tue 12 Jan - 15:20

fedrules wrote:
Roasted Arizona wrote:Fedrules, I think we all realise that, but the point is, it's being aired as a possibility again. Slightly ironic given that the supposed point of the McCann's taking this case to court is because they don't want the world to believe she is dead!
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It's just easy to get carried away in these circumstances. I agree about the irony, but, of course their aim has always been very different from the stated one!!

Fedrules, I'm not saying you're one of these people, but some folks seem to take it upon themselves to advise others: calm down; don't get too excited; don't get your hopes up. For myself, I try to live in the moment and every moment in which I feel hopeful, optimistic, about something is a moment that is actually very good for my physical and emotional health. If there comes a moment which is not so bright, well too bad. I could have spent my time being miserable and pessimistic, which is bad for the health, when instead I experienced a few positive moments.

keepingmum Tue 12 Jan - 15:21

I think we have all been fairly certain that Madeleine is no longer with us. We just hope we will see some sort of justice for the little girl.

oliver Tue 12 Jan - 15:24

i have posted comment underneath the live feed on skylive but cant find where to access the comments - any help with this?????

**fedrules** Tue 12 Jan - 15:25

AnneEsse, I suppose I'm talking to myself really. I have spent months hoping that the truth will finally come out about this case and every time I've been disappointed.

Guest Tue 12 Jan - 15:25

Thank You RIORITA for your kindness.

With all my very best wishes from Rose xxx

bootsy Tue 12 Jan - 15:25

There is far more more evidence to suggest Madeleine is dead than there is alive.Please lets hope the case is reopend

Guest Tue 12 Jan - 15:28

We're back in court. The mcanns are here but mr amaral is missing.

JondiPaolo

Mr amaral has just walked in and we're under way. less than 20 seconds ago from txt

**Annabel** Tue 12 Jan - 15:28

We're back in court. The mcanns are here but mr amaral is missing.

Mr amaral has just walked in and we're under way.

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