Re: I CAN FIND MADDIE

**AnnaEsse** Tue 2 Feb - 13:34

vengefulangel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Antoinette wrote:I agree too. Very far fetched

Far-fetched? That means unlikely or with no reference to reality. Now, we may not want to think of something gruesome happening to Maddie's body, but chopping up is not far-fetched for a couple of doctors. If an ordinary villain, like the man in the "jigsaw murder," can do it, it's not far-fetched to contemplate doctors doing it. Suppose someone had a body they had stored in a convenient freezer and then had to consider how to dispose of it without attracting too much attention? Bury it? Transport it on a day when the press were not expecting any activity? Could be. I guess I have a very active imagination and I'm not really squeamish!

U mean they could have done a Jeffrey Dahmer....yowza.

Horrible to think about, but on a huge rubbish tip, small body parts would soon be disposed of by carrion creatures.

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 13:55

AnnaEsse wrote:
vengefulangel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Antoinette wrote:I agree too. Very far fetched

Far-fetched? That means unlikely or with no reference to reality. Now, we may not want to think of something gruesome happening to Maddie's body, but chopping up is not far-fetched for a couple of doctors. If an ordinary villain, like the man in the "jigsaw murder," can do it, it's not far-fetched to contemplate doctors doing it. Suppose someone had a body they had stored in a convenient freezer and then had to consider how to dispose of it without attracting too much attention? Bury it? Transport it on a day when the press were not expecting any activity? Could be. I guess I have a very active imagination and I'm not really squeamish!

U mean they could have done a Jeffrey Dahmer....yowza.

Horrible to think about, but on a huge rubbish tip, small body parts would soon be disposed of by carrion creatures.

I think poor Madeleine went in one piece to the beach and thereafter you could well be right. Interesting view point AnnaEsse definitely food for thought I CAN FIND MADDIE - Page 4 25346

GM always seemed a bit too cock sure of himself when he said find the body and prove we killed her. I think that is always going to be the sticking point, that even DK, with his homemade dna cum handheld vac, if he does find her what does it prove against the Mccanns? All it does is stop the cash flow for the "search".

**kitti** Tue 2 Feb - 14:18

I dont think her body will ever be found.

I dont think she went out to sea, i think they felt so guilty that they have put her in a place which means something to them and the world, to make them feel better and to try to rid them off their guilt.

Fatima comes to mind.

**Annabel** Tue 2 Feb - 14:23

kitti wrote:I dont think her body will ever be found.

I dont think she went out to sea, i think they felt so guilty that they have put her in a place which means something to them and the world, to make them feel better and to try to rid them off their guilt.

Fatima comes to mind.

It's really a possibility Fatima!!!!!

Or this way:

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/101509/Is-this-how-kidnapper-of-Maddie-plotted-his-crime-

**ann_chovey** Tue 2 Feb - 14:54

interesting article Annabel, thanks. I think Fatima was a kind of memorial service for Maddie in the eyes of the McCanns. I still think the little girl's remains were hidden in PDL, and then maybe moved.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article3040094.ece?print=yes&randnum=1151003209000

They got up at first light and went to search alone on the open scrubland beyond the resort, wandering around, calling Madeleine’s name. It was cold and lonely – there was no answer.

Checking a certain place, maybe?

renoir Tue 2 Feb - 15:20

Antoinette wrote:
renoir wrote:If she was taken back to Britain and cremated - NOBODY'S going to find her.

2 questions: 1 how would the get her back to Britain without someone noticing something and
2: how would they cremate her. I'm sorry but that's a bit far fetched.

No crematorium is going to cremate a body without a death cert. So what did they do burn her in a bin somewhere. Seriously do you really think this would have happened.

Well, for a start it's no more imposssible as anything other scenarios being talked about here. IMO.

There were many possible ways of repatriating the body, and these have been discussed over and over again, over the last two years, so perhaps
it would be worth while looking them up. Maddie Case Files the most recent, I believe.
As for cremation. I would imagine that would be possible too. With the right help.

I personally don't think she was cremated. But if she was, then before the repatriation would be also on the cards.

I don't think they just threw her away. But that's only a gut feeling.

julygirl3210 Tue 2 Feb - 16:30

Renoir, yes, possible cremation at a Pet Cemetery by any chance? Still have my suspicions about Hoos. And the foreign couple with the bag of supposed dog remains.

**Susan** Tue 2 Feb - 16:54

vengefulangel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Antoinette wrote:I agree too. Very far fetched

Far-fetched? That means unlikely or with no reference to reality. Now, we may not want to think of something gruesome happening to Maddie's body, but chopping up is not far-fetched for a couple of doctors. If an ordinary villain, like the man in the "jigsaw murder," can do it, it's not far-fetched to contemplate doctors doing it. Suppose someone had a body they had stored in a convenient freezer and then had to consider how to dispose of it without attracting too much attention? Bury it? Transport it on a day when the press were not expecting any activity? Could be. I guess I have a very active imagination and I'm not really squeamish!

U mean they could have done a Jeffrey Dahmer....yowza.

They could have indeed....

Ask Jeffrey Dahmers father if he ever expected to hear what he heard in court about his sons weirdo acts.....or even Dennis Nilsens work mates at the job centre if they expected him to be the person who did those crimes the police said he did.

The fact is we dont know what people do until they are caught and we also know that the guy next door is very capable of committing these crimes.

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 17:16

Well, if I were Danie Krugel, I'd just have gone looking by myself. Without the fanfare, press, or anything else. If I really had a wonder machine and I really thought I would find her, I'd just go and do it. Think what the papers would pay for that story! The reason he hasn't just got on with it is because it's all rubbish, IMHO.

Lizzy11268 Tue 2 Feb - 20:13

The Famous Grouse wrote:Well, if I were Danie Krugel, I'd just have gone looking by myself. Without the fanfare, press, or anything else. If I really had a wonder machine and I really thought I would find her, I'd just go and do it. Think what the papers would pay for that story! The reason he hasn't just got on with it is because it's all rubbish, IMHO.

I would tend to agree with this. I mean,even if not at first, why not just go and do it now? Everyone is saying its pretty much rubbish, if he is that convinced its easily proved or disproved if only he could be bothered.

Seems to be a lot of people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk attached to this particular case.

**kitti** Tue 2 Feb - 21:08

I just dont think someone would walk round a resort, even at night, for 40 mins with a child in his/her arms, isnt there wasteland very near the apt block.

**AnnaEsse** Tue 2 Feb - 21:12

The Famous Grouse wrote:Well, if I were Danie Krugel, I'd just have gone looking by myself. Without the fanfare, press, or anything else. If I really had a wonder machine and I really thought I would find her, I'd just go and do it. Think what the papers would pay for that story! The reason he hasn't just got on with it is because it's all rubbish, IMHO.

TFG, I don't think it's appropriate for someone on their own to investigate a potential crime scene. The police wouldn't do it so there would never be any cause for allegations about tampering with evidence. Krugel may just stumble on something important and he definitely should not do anything without witnesses.

Eve Tue 2 Feb - 21:29

Well well well so this man Krugel seem to know where Madeleine is, that is very interesting so let see if anything is done to find her ?

renoir Tue 2 Feb - 21:38

What's odd, I think is that this has re-surfaced now.

Why?
Is it to someone's advantage - and if so - who's?

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 21:57

Ambersuz wrote:They could have indeed....

Ask Jeffrey Dahmers father if he ever expected to hear what he heard in court about his sons weirdo acts.....or even Dennis Nilsens work mates at the job centre if they expected him to be the person who did those crimes the police said he did.

The fact is we dont know what people do until they are caught and we also know that the guy next door is very capable of committing these crimes.

There are a lot of freaky people pottering around that is for sure. If the Mccanns start a new business venture and its a burger van we will know we got this theory spot on I CAN FIND MADDIE - Page 4 294124

If KM had been around a lot of corpses before she left for holiday, and GM with his strange choide of reading material the "interpretation of murder" book, who knows?

**Lioned** Tue 2 Feb - 22:49

I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.

**the one and only big_l** Tue 2 Feb - 22:59

Lioned wrote:I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.

i agree lioned ,gerry mccann took the wee soul to the beach a boat awaiting and disposed of like a piece of dirt IMHO

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 23:11

the one and only big_l wrote:
Lioned wrote:I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.
i agree lioned ,gerry mccann took the wee soul to the beach a boat awaiting and disposed of like a piece of dirt IMHO

like a piece of dirt? i dont think so

**Lioned** Tue 2 Feb - 23:11

Yep bigun i recon so.

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 23:16

Lioned wrote:I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.

What about the dogs and the hire car though? Unless you mean burial no.2? If GM had tossed poor Maddie off the pier wouldnt her little body have floated inland again? Im sure I read somewhere that the tidal experts (or whatever they are called) said that her body would wash up further down the coast?

**the one and only big_l** Tue 2 Feb - 23:18

amethyst wrote:
the one and only big_l wrote:
Lioned wrote:I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.
i agree lioned ,gerry mccann took the wee soul to the beach a boat awaiting and disposed of like a piece of dirt IMHO

like a piece of dirt? i dont think so

OH YES THEY HAVE
they have lied to the police/media and the public they have hawked her name every chance they can get for money, and have never ever looked for her...................imho treating your child like a piece of dirt

they are scum of the highest order.

Guest Tue 2 Feb - 23:18

vengefulangel wrote:
Lioned wrote:I still recon She was unceremoniously dumped at sea.The heartless mccans couldnt be bothered to look after Her properly when She was alive,the only thing in their minds was to save their own skin,just as it is now.

What about the dogs and the hire car though? Unless you mean burial no.2? If GM had tossed poor Maddie off the pier wouldnt her little body have floated inland again? Im sure I read somewhere that the tidal experts (or whatever they are called) said that her body would wash up further down the coast?

Usually a body that has been thrown out to sea does end up being washed up somewhere else along the coast

bootsy Wed 3 Feb - 0:13

I would tend to agree with this. I mean,even if not at first, why not just go and do it now? Everyone is saying its pretty much rubbish, if he is that convinced its easily proved or disproved if only he could be bothered.

Seems to be a lot of people who talk the talk but don't walk the walk attached to this particular case./quote]
I totally agree why doesn't DK just do what he feels is right and then if he's RIGHT and finds some evidence scream it from the rooftops of PDL

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