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Post  halfamo on Thu 16 Jun - 17:38

I heard a little of this on Sky news earlier, did'nt realise it involved Lidl it really is odd all these cases cropping up .

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Post  Panda on Thu 16 Jun - 17:42

Thanks for this mara_thon,

I said at the beginning that not far from where I live a few years ago an outbreak of e-coli affected schoolchildren in a village and the source was found to be meat from a Local Butcher . He apparently was not very hygienic in the way he stored the meat , had to close his Shop and was heavily fined.

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Post  mara thon on Thu 16 Jun - 18:14

I guess at the end of the day it all boils down to hygiene but unfortunately there will always be those who don't follow a good hygiene practice. Out of sight out of mind I would think is a frequent occurrence, i.e. we called in an English cafe here for a coffee, the kitchen was clearly visible through a hatch in the wall. We actually saw a member of staff in the kitchen blow her nose on her apron and then carry on making sandwiches. We were out of there before our coffee arrived.

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Post  Angelique on Fri 17 Jun - 2:46

Panda

Can you remember the title of Bebootje's post - cant find it - do you know if it's been moved ?

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Post  Panda on Fri 17 Jun - 2:52

Angelique wrote:Panda

Can you remember the title of Bebootje's post - cant find it - do you know if it's been moved ?

It"s in the "Another Earthquake hits Christchurch thread.

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Post  wjk on Fri 17 Jun - 10:25

Not seen any updates on the children in France, anyone else?

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Post  Panda on Fri 17 Jun - 10:36



There you go wjk


French Kids Ill After Eating 'E.coli Burgers'
18 Comments10:07pm UK, Thursday June 16, 2011

Five children are in a serious condition in France with E.coli infections after eating meat infected with the bacteria.


The children had eaten Steak Country beefburgers


However, officials said the outbreak did not appear to be related to the deadly strain which has killed 37 people and made 3,000 ill, mostly in northern Germany.

The children had eaten beefburgers made by French company SEB which said the meat was taken from animals slaughtered in three European countries and processed in France.

"There's meat from Germany, there's meat from Belgium and from Holland," said SEB chief executive Guy Lamorlette.


(The children) are in a serious but not worrying state. Their lives are not at all in danger.

Regional Health Agency spokesman
Six children, aged between 20 months and eight years old, were taken to a hospital in Lille, northern France on Wednesday and one was later released.

Three are being treated with hemodialysis, a method of removing waste products from the blood after kidney failure.


E.coli: Your Questions Answered
What is E.coli, what does it do and how can you avoid contamination?

Find out how to stay safe, with advice from Sky's regular medical contributor Dr Sarah Jarvis.


A spokesman for the Regional Health Agency (ARS) said: "They are in a serious but not worrying state. Their lives are not at all in danger."

The "Steak Country" burgers were bought in French branches of German supermarket Lidl.



German supermarket Lidl has withdrawn the burgers


SEB has recalled the burgers and Lidl said it had removed boxes from its shelves in France.

The outbreak comes on the heels of E.coli cases linked to contaminated bean sprouts which has killed 36 people in Germany and one in Sweden.






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Post  wjk on Fri 17 Jun - 11:12

Thanks Panda xx

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Post  Angelique on Fri 17 Jun - 21:58

Panda

Many thanks - I appreciate your help.

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Post  Guest on Sat 18 Jun - 8:11

Well we got back from Southern Spain a day or so ago and I'm happy to report that not only were the Cucumbers delicious (we ate them on principle, despite finding out about the Bean Sprout hypothesis) but so were all the other salad items. The shops and markets were awash with them.

Bit of fuss in the Spanish Newspapers about lost revenue, though. Quite right.

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 8:41

The End Is Nigh wrote:Well we got back from Southern Spain a day or so ago and I'm happy to report that not only were the Cucumbers delicious (we ate them on principle, despite finding out about the Bean Sprout hypothesis) but so were all the other salad items. The shops and markets were awash with them.

Bit of fuss in the Spanish Newspapers about lost revenue, though. Quite right.

Morning The end is Nigh,

The Spanish are suing the Germans for millions of Euros because of having to destroy thousands of Cucumbers etc only to find it was uneccessary.
Now it appears to be Meat responsible yet the WHO doesn"t seem to be able to pin down the cause which is worrying.

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Post  Guest on Sat 18 Jun - 9:50

Panda wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:Well we got back from Southern Spain a day or so ago and I'm happy to report that not only were the Cucumbers delicious (we ate them on principle, despite finding out about the Bean Sprout hypothesis) but so were all the other salad items. The shops and markets were awash with them.

Bit of fuss in the Spanish Newspapers about lost revenue, though. Quite right.

Morning The end is Nigh,

The Spanish are suing the Germans for millions of Euros because of having to destroy thousands of Cucumbers etc only to find it was uneccessary.
Now it appears to be Meat responsible yet the WHO doesn"t seem to be able to pin down the cause which is worrying.


Meat, eh? Missed that theory!

Still, we lived mainly off fish, including Eels which we tried for the very first time and were FABULOUS.

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 10:09

The End Is Nigh wrote:
Panda wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:Well we got back from Southern Spain a day or so ago and I'm happy to report that not only were the Cucumbers delicious (we ate them on principle, despite finding out about the Bean Sprout hypothesis) but so were all the other salad items. The shops and markets were awash with them.

Bit of fuss in the Spanish Newspapers about lost revenue, though. Quite right.

Morning The end is Nigh,

The Spanish are suing the Germans for millions of Euros because of having to destroy thousands of Cucumbers etc only to find it was uneccessary.
Now it appears to be Meat responsible yet the WHO doesn"t seem to be able to pin down the cause which is worrying.


Meat, eh? Missed that theory!

Iposted here yesterday that some children in France were sick from eating Beefburgers, interesting, have a read.

Still, we lived mainly off fish, including Eels which we tried for the very first time and were FABULOUS.



I posted here yesterday that some children in France were sick from eating Beefburgers, interesting, have a read. I tried Eels once....too chewy for me.

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Post  Guest on Sat 18 Jun - 10:24

These Eels are farmed and they are tiny .................. oddly enough, similar in appearance (both size and shape) to Bean Sprouts!

Very tender and very mild in flavour.

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 10:39

The End Is Nigh wrote:These Eels are farmed and they are tiny .................. oddly enough, similar in appearance (both size and shape) to Bean Sprouts!

Very tender and very mild in flavour.

Glad you enjoyed them and had good weather. What do you think of the latest outbreak? It"s very worrying and may not even be a new strain of e-coli.

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Post  Guest on Sat 18 Jun - 10:50

I think we have become too hygiene conscious and have made ourselves more vulnerable to infection.

Despite that sentiment, I once took an employee of a well known Supermarket Chain to task for stocking up fresh bread product shelves using her bare hands: She got most indignant and said she was allowed to do that and anyway her hands were clean .......... but were they? I have no idea and nor did she.




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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 11:04


Yes , I would agree with you there. Plus all the additives in food now, intensive Farming , GM crops etc. yet the U.K. throws away £10 Billion of out of date
food simply because the Supermarkets give us a sell by and use by date. As someone here said smell it, taste it, if it seems alright eat it.

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Post  halfamo on Sat 18 Jun - 12:04

On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 12:13

halfamo wrote:On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

Hi halfamo,

So now it will be fish contaminating the rivers which flow into brooks and streams..........If it wasn"t so serious it would be laughable.

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Post  halfamo on Sat 18 Jun - 12:36

Panda wrote:
halfamo wrote:On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

Hi halfamo,

So now it will be fish contaminating the rivers which flow into brooks and streams..........If it wasn"t so serious it would be laughable.

Just my opinion panda but i think the Germans have made a complete c*ckup of this from the start.

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Post  Guest on Sat 18 Jun - 12:42

Panda wrote:
halfamo wrote:On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

Hi halfamo,

So now it will be fish contaminating the rivers which flow into brooks and streams..........If it wasn"t so serious it would be laughable.


Sugar!

Let's hope it isn't the Eels, then .................

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 12:45

The End Is Nigh wrote:
Panda wrote:
halfamo wrote:On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

Hi halfamo,

So now it will be fish contaminating the rivers which flow into brooks and streams..........If it wasn"t so serious it would be laughable.


Sugar!

Let's hope it isn't the Eels, then .................

You"d best go to your GP immediately and get an anti e-coli jab

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Post  Panda on Sat 18 Jun - 12:58

halfamo wrote:
Panda wrote:
halfamo wrote:On my com home page today this strain of ecoli been found in a brook.Thats as much as i know at the moment.

Hi halfamo,

So now it will be fish contaminating the rivers which flow into brooks and streams..........If it wasn"t so serious it would be laughable.

Just my opinion panda but i think the Germans have made a complete c*ckup of this from the start.

I agree and wonder why the best brains from around the World havn"t been brought in . It seems Germany is still the source but it may not be a new
e-coli strain if it is found in vegetables, meat and now water ........there has to be a common denominator. No new case reported in the News today.

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Post  Angelique on Sun 19 Jun - 14:59

This is beginning to sound very random. I wonder if there isn't something more to this.

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Post  Panda on Sun 19 Jun - 16:44

Angelique wrote:This is beginning to sound very random. I wonder if there isn't something more to this.


Yes Angelique, I"m beginning to think Germany was targeted because it is doing well economically and a virus has been introduced by a Terrorist Organisation. It is far more effective than bombs and proving much harder to find the source.

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