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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 13:41

Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Fri 20 Mar - 13:44

AnnaEsse wrote:Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?

bit random, miss anna.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Fri 20 Mar - 13:45

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wjk wrote:
chrissie wrote:
almostgothic wrote:Vicount Ian Kerr CGC ‏@IanKerr 5m5 minutes ago

At Leicester Coroners Court Police spokesperson has stated that #BrendaLeyland sent NO criminal tweets.


Wow!  Thanks almostgothic

Thank you ag!
I'm so pleased to read that. Its what most of us thought.


It is a shame that she is still being called troll though by the various media outlets though.  Still can't see that changing anytime soon

because there's no reason why it should.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  wjk on Fri 20 Mar - 13:55

AnnaEsse wrote:Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?
Yes, wasn't there two of them?

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 13:57

wjk wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?
Yes, wasn't there two of them?

Yes, I believe you're right.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  wjk on Fri 20 Mar - 14:00

AnnaEsse wrote:
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AnnaEsse wrote:Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?
Yes, wasn't there two of them?

Yes, I believe you're right.

I found this, Anna, if its any help?

http://truthformadeleine.com/2010/10/colin-sahlkes-suspicious-death/

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 14:05

wjk wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
wjk wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Can anyone remember that man who sold his motorbike to go to Portugal to investigate the McCann case, who died soon after he returned to the UK?
Yes, wasn't there two of them?

Yes, I believe you're right.

I found this, Anna, if its any help?

http://truthformadeleine.com/2010/10/colin-sahlkes-suspicious-death/

Thanks wjk.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Fri 20 Mar - 14:09

Having just read the link provided by "wjk", something else that makes me hmmmmm. Thanks also to "AnnaEsse" for mentioning it.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 14:33

interested wrote:Having just read the link provided by "wjk", something else that makes me hmmmmm.  Thanks also to "AnnaEsse" for mentioning it.


Makes me do that too, interested. The man's family had no idea how the morphine got into his system.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  chrissie on Fri 20 Mar - 14:44

AnnaEsse wrote:
interested wrote:Having just read the link provided by "wjk", something else that makes me hmmmmm.  Thanks also to "AnnaEsse" for mentioning it.


Makes me do that too, interested. The man's family had no idea how the morphine got into his system.

Indeed!

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  chrissie on Fri 20 Mar - 14:52

http://news.sky.com/story/1449183/alleged-mccann-trolls-death-was-suicide

Alleged McCann Troll's Death Was Suicide

By Ashish Joshi, Sky News Correspondent

A Leicester coroner has concluded a woman found dead days after she featured in a Sky News report into online trolling took her own life.

Brenda Leyland was found dead in a Leicester hotel room in October 2014.

An inquest into her death at Leicester's Coroners Court heard witness testimony from a toxicologist, two police officers, Mrs Leyland's former psychiatrist and two Sky News employees.

A written statement from Mrs Leyland's youngest son, Benjamin, was read to the court.

He said: "I have no doubt in my mind that the panic and fear that I heard in her voice after the Sky News interview was the final straw that pushed my mum to do what she did.

"She was broken, destroyed. "

Mr Leyland, who lives in America, described his mother as a woman who "felt it hard to connect with people".

He wrote: "She struggled with depression. She had undergone psychiatric treatment and medicated for anxiety. The court was also told that there had been a previous suicide attempt."

Sky News' Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt who challenged Brenda Leyland about her alleged online trolling in a report for the channel, said he had talked to Mrs Leyland on the telephone after the report was televised.

He said: "I asked her how she was and she said 'Oh, I had thought about ending it all but I'm feeling better, I've had a drink I've spoken to my son who has told me I've been a silly, stupid woman."

Mr Brunt was asked by Coroner Catherine Mason if he thought it was a throwaway line.

He replied: "Yes".

Detective Sergeant Steven Hutchings told the court that Mrs Leyland had posted more than 2,000 tweets under the name Sweepyface.

Of these, 424 mentioned Gerry and Kate McCann. The couple's three-year-old daughter Madeleine was taken from the family's Portugal holiday apartment in 2007.

In recording a verdict of suicide, the coroner said: "I'm satisfied although Mrs Leyland had a mental health history, that others would not necessarily have known that she was suffering from mental health (problems).

"She had mentioned wanting to take her own life but then dismissed it. I don't think it could have been known to anybody that there was a definite intention for her to take her own life."

A Sky News statement issued after the coroner's verdict said the broadcaster was confident that no editorial guidelines were breached.

"The team at Sky News followed its editorial guidelines and pursued a story in a responsible manner that we believed was firmly in the public interest," the statement said.

"Brenda Leyland's tragic death highlights the unforeseeable human impact that the stories we pursue can have, and Sky News would like to extend its sincere condolences to her family."

Bit late for that now, RIP Brenda.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  chrissie on Fri 20 Mar - 15:00

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Brenda-Leyland-inquest-McCann-Twitter-troll/story-26205016-detail/story.html#ixzz3UwBiUwC4

Brenda Leyland inquest: 'McCann Twitter troll' told Sky News presenter she'd thought of 'ending it '

The Sky News presenter who confronted 'Twitter troll' Brenda Leyland has spoken at her inquest of his "devastation" after finding out she had taken her own life days after she had told him she had thought about "ending it all".

Martin Brunt has spoken at the full inquest into Ms Leyland's death, which has been taking place today at the Town Hall, in Leicester.

Ms Leyland took was found dead in a Leicester hotel room on October 4.

Her death came after Mr Brunt had confronted her about abusive tweets she had sent to the Gerry and Kate McCann, following the disappearance of their daughter, Madeline.

Mr Brunt confronted Ms Leyland on September 29.

He told the inquest how he and a cameraman waited outside her home in Burton Overy for three hours, waiting for Ms Leyland to appear.

When Ms Leyland came out of her house, he approached her, along with the cameraman and asked her: "Why are you using your Twitter account to attack the McCanns?"

He told how she initially turned away and then turned back and said: "I'm entitled to".

The following day, on October 1, Mr Brunt called Ms Leyland to tell her the footage would be broadcast.

During the phone call, Ms Leyland said to Mr Brunt: "I have been thinking about ending it all but I'm feeling better now."

Mr Brunt told the inquest how he thought this was just a "throwaway comment".

Coroner Catherine Mason today recorded a verdict of suicide.

Ms Leyland died from a helium overdose.





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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Judge Dread on Fri 20 Mar - 15:36

chrissie wrote:http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Brenda-Leyland-inquest-McCann-Twitter-troll/story-26205016-detail/story.html#ixzz3UwBiUwC4

Brenda Leyland inquest: 'McCann Twitter troll' told Sky News presenter she'd thought of 'ending it '

The Sky News presenter who confronted 'Twitter troll' Brenda Leyland has spoken at her inquest of his "devastation" after finding out she had taken her own life days after she had told him she had thought about "ending it all".

Martin Brunt has spoken at the full inquest into Ms Leyland's death, which has been taking place today at the Town Hall, in Leicester.

Ms Leyland took was found dead in a Leicester hotel room on October 4.

Her death came after Mr Brunt had confronted her about abusive tweets she had sent to the Gerry and Kate McCann, following the disappearance of their daughter, Madeline.

Mr Brunt confronted Ms Leyland on September 29.

He told the inquest how he and a cameraman waited outside her home in Burton Overy for three hours, waiting for Ms Leyland to appear.

When Ms Leyland came out of her house, he approached her, along with the cameraman and asked her: "Why are you using your Twitter account to attack the McCanns?"

He told how she initially turned away and then turned back and said: "I'm entitled to".

The following day, on October 1, Mr Brunt called Ms Leyland to tell her the footage would be broadcast.

During the phone call, Ms Leyland said to Mr Brunt: "I have been thinking about ending it all but I'm feeling better now."

Mr Brunt told the inquest how he thought this was just a "throwaway comment".

Coroner Catherine Mason today recorded a verdict of suicide.

Ms Leyland died from a helium overdose.

In my opinion, "I have been thinking about ending it all” should never be construed as a throwaway comment. It should ring worrying alarm bells.

Shame on Martin Brunt for not hearing them...

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  chrissie on Fri 20 Mar - 16:43

Jerry Lawton
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Police: Mrs Leyland's tweets were not criminal but some messages she was sent by trolls after her TV exposure still under investigation

4:24 PM - 20 Mar 2015



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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  wjk on Fri 20 Mar - 17:03

chrissie wrote:Jerry Lawton
‏@JerryLawton
Police: Mrs Leyland's tweets were not criminal but some messages she was sent by trolls after her TV exposure still under investigation

4:24 PM - 20 Mar 2015



Oh thats great news, because some of those Tweets really were disgusting!

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 17:17

wjk wrote:
chrissie wrote:Jerry Lawton
‏@JerryLawton
Police: Mrs Leyland's tweets were not criminal but some messages she was sent by trolls after her TV exposure still under investigation

4:24 PM - 20 Mar 2015



Oh thats great news, because some of those Tweets really were disgusting!


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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Mar - 17:18

chrissie wrote:Jerry Lawton
‏@JerryLawton
Police: Mrs Leyland's tweets were not criminal but some messages she was sent by trolls after her TV exposure still under investigation

4:24 PM - 20 Mar 2015



I am so glad to see that.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Fri 20 Mar - 17:34

Brenda's call for help, "I have been thinking about ending it all." was dismissed just as Madeleine's question, "Where were you when I was crying last night?" was dismissed by her mother.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Fri 20 Mar - 17:52

Blacksmith's post "It's what they do" is available at www.blacksmithbureau.blogspot.com

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Fri 20 Mar - 18:19

Pat Brown's latest, "The Brenda Leyland Inquest and the Suicide Ruling" is available at www.patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Chris on Fri 20 Mar - 19:47

chrissie wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/1449183/alleged-mccann-trolls-death-was-suicide

Alleged McCann Troll's Death Was Suicide

By Ashish Joshi, Sky News Correspondent

A Leicester coroner has concluded a woman found dead days after she featured in a Sky News report into online trolling took her own life.

Brenda Leyland was found dead in a Leicester hotel room in October 2014.

An inquest into her death at Leicester's Coroners Court heard witness testimony from a toxicologist, two police officers, Mrs Leyland's former psychiatrist and two Sky News employees.

A written statement from Mrs Leyland's youngest son, Benjamin, was read to the court.

He said: "I have no doubt in my mind that the panic and fear that I heard in her voice after the Sky News interview was the final straw that pushed my mum to do what she did.

"She was broken, destroyed. "

Mr Leyland, who lives in America, described his mother as a woman who "felt it hard to connect with people".

He wrote: "She struggled with depression. She had undergone psychiatric treatment and medicated for anxiety. The court was also told that there had been a previous suicide attempt."

Sky News' Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt who challenged Brenda Leyland about her alleged online trolling in a report for the channel, said he had talked to Mrs Leyland on the telephone after the report was televised.

He said: "I asked her how she was and she said 'Oh, I had thought about ending it all but I'm feeling better, I've had a drink I've spoken to my son who has told me I've been a silly, stupid woman."

Mr Brunt was asked by Coroner Catherine Mason if he thought it was a throwaway line.

He replied: "Yes".

Detective Sergeant Steven Hutchings told the court that Mrs Leyland had posted more than 2,000 tweets under the name Sweepyface.

Of these, 424 mentioned Gerry and Kate McCann. The couple's three-year-old daughter Madeleine was taken from the family's Portugal holiday apartment in 2007.

In recording a verdict of suicide, the coroner said: "I'm satisfied although Mrs Leyland had a mental health history, that others would not necessarily have known that she was suffering from mental health (problems).

"She had mentioned wanting to take her own life but then dismissed it. I don't think it could have been known to anybody that there was a definite intention for her to take her own life."

A Sky News statement issued after the coroner's verdict said the broadcaster was confident that no editorial guidelines were breached.

"The team at Sky News followed its editorial guidelines and pursued a story in a responsible manner that we believed was firmly in the public interest," the statement said.

"Brenda Leyland's tragic death highlights the unforeseeable human impact that the stories we pursue can have, and Sky News would like to extend its sincere condolences to her family."

Bit late for that now, RIP Brenda.

I see being pushed for space Sky didn't have room to include the police conclusion that none of the tweets constituted a criminal act despite Brunt suggesting otherwise when he doorstepped BL.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  fred on Fri 20 Mar - 20:09

interested wrote:
fred wrote:
interested wrote:
Marky wrote:and i won't get an answer. so, no surprises there.


It's really all a matter of opinion.  I respect yours.

Why?  It's usually a non answer full of sarcasm or critisism, never a valid point


"fred" - I was being generous to snarky "Marky".

I know that. My reply was directed at Sarky Marky not you. Why be generous though?

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Fri 20 Mar - 20:20

fred wrote:
interested wrote:
fred wrote:
interested wrote:
Marky wrote:and i won't get an answer. so, no surprises there.


It's really all a matter of opinion.  I respect yours.

Why?  It's usually a non answer full of sarcasm or critisism, never a valid point


"fred" - I was being generous to snarky "Marky".

I know that.   My reply was directed at Sarky Marky not you.    Why be generous though?

he's being ironic. google it.


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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Fri 20 Mar - 21:00

Chris wrote:I see being pushed for space Sky didn't have room to include the police conclusion that none of the tweets constituted a criminal act despite Brunt suggesting otherwise when he doorstepped BL.

they did as it happens but at the time martin brunt didn't suggest anything of the sort.


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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Fri 20 Mar - 22:05

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I am wrong, but my recollection is that Martin Brunt did tell Brenda Leyland that she was being investigated by the police. The inference from that would be that what she did was illegal when in fact what she did was not.

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