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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  tanszi on Mon 23 Feb - 19:44

i feel quite sure if any were libellous they would have been confirmed as being so.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Sun 1 Mar - 3:03

There has been "chatter" on Twitter tonight regarding the circumstances of Brenda Leyland's death due to an article in the Daily Star. I have attempted to find the article online without success. As I understand it, no other papers are reporting the disturbing details mentioned in the Star. The details mentioned are truly disturbing in view of the fact that Brenda tweeted that questions should be asked if she suddenly disappeared under mysterious circumstances. (paraphrasing here).

Wondering if anyone has actually seen the article or is this a sick hoax. I thought the Coroner would be the one to release the details of Brenda's death at the appropriate time.

Rest in peace Brenda.

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Post  Guest on Sun 1 Mar - 7:23

interested wrote:There has been "chatter" on Twitter tonight regarding the circumstances of Brenda Leyland's death due to an article in the Daily Star. áI have attempted to find the article online without success. áAs I understand it, no other papers are reporting áthe disturbing details mentioned in the Star. áThe details mentioned are truly disturbing in view of the fact that Brenda tweeted that questions should be asked if she suddenly disappeared under mysterious circumstances. (paraphrasing here).

Wondering if anyone has actually seen the article or is this a sick hoax. áI thought the Coroner would be the one to release the details of Brenda's death at the appropriate time.

Rest in peace Brenda.

don't distress yourself. it's a four paragraph report not attributed to any specific reporter, claiming death by helium overdose, although i suspect they've confused this with nitrous oxide better known as laughing gas, and attribute this to leicester coroner's court having recorded the nature of the case accordingly. probably not true but then who knows. no doubt it's set a lot of imaginations on fire and theories are probably running wild. as for the 'questions should be asked etc', i wouldn't pay that too much mind. it's been looking for some time that brenda leyland was 'disturbed' in some way so the remark would be in keeping with a troubled mind.

alternately, maybe she just decided to lay low someplace different and wait for the story to die, taking a couple party favours with her to pass the time and accidentally overdosed. yes, maybe she was a recreational drug user. wouldn't be unheard of would it?



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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 1 Mar - 8:36

http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t193p225-brenda-leyland-has-died-sweepyface-rip-brenda

The article mentioning a helium overdose is on this link. For some reason it can't be copied but the link is accessible to non-members.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  comperedna on Sun 1 Mar - 14:06

Sadly... I read yesterday in another place, that helium plus a kit involving a plastic hood is recommended as a swift and painless suicide device. The kit was said to be available online. I hope this is wrong, but it was definitely helium mentioned. The article in The Daily Star is appalling... and so is the whole situation over Brenda Leyland's death.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Sun 1 Mar - 17:10

Not Born Yesterday wrote:http://maddiemccannmystery.forumotion.co.uk/t193p225-brenda-leyland-has-died-sweepyface-rip-brenda

The article mentioning a helium overdose is on this link. For some reason it can't be copied but the link is accessible to non-members. á



Thanks to "Not Born Yesterday" for the link to the article. I find the title of the article (Knockout) deplorable.

Rest in peace Brenda.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  comperedna on Sun 1 Mar - 17:16

The place where I read about the Daily Star article and saw an online copy of it, now says it is possible that the article was a hoax, as it cannot now be found online, and no other paper has printed the same facts. If it is a hoax it is a particularly sick one.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  tanszi on Sun 1 Mar - 18:25

I agree comperedna.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Sun 1 Mar - 19:35

ah, makes me chuckle so many of you just won't accept the obvious.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 1 Mar - 19:46

I'm not sure what is the obvious thing we haven't yet accepted?

As for the helium story, I think that was an unsavoury hoax.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Sun 1 Mar - 20:09

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I'm not sure what is the obvious thing we haven't yet accepted?

As for the helium story, I think that was an unsavoury hoax.



That makes two of us - I'm missing the "obvious thing" too.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Lioned on Sun 1 Mar - 21:32

I think the 'obvious' is that Brenda was not mentally well and meant to go to the hotel to commit suicide.

The doorstepping by brunt may just have been the final push She needed.

However,things aren't always what they seem.

The 'helium suicide plot' requires some planning and equiptment which would have been found in the hotel room.Infact it would have been obvious if She had killed herself in that way.As would any other evidence of suicide by other means.


That helium article looks like a hoax to me.








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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 2 Mar - 11:07

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t11042p50-helium-overdose#303616

For some reason I can't copy the actual newspaper screenshot but it does look as if the article was published on 28th February.

It is certainly a possibility that Sky's actions were the final straw that tipped Brenda over the edge.

I hope that the inquest does answer all the questions there are surrounding this case.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Mon 2 Mar - 11:26

Lioned wrote:I think the 'obvious' is that Brenda was not mentally well and meant to go to the hotel to commit suicide.

The doorstepping by brunt may just have been the final push She needed.

However,things aren't always what they seem.

The 'helium suicide plot' requires some planning and equiptment which would have been found in the hotel room.Infact it would have been obvious if She had killed herself in that way.As would any other evidence of suicide by other means.


That helium article looks like a hoax to me.

that's my thinking on the matter. the exposure may well have been the trigger but if it was i don't accept that any blame can or should be attached to the media. some of the wording used to describe the event are at odds with the way it played out.

not sure if the report is a hoax because, as with things like this, the big question is 'why?' á


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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Mon 2 Mar - 17:55

Hopefully the Coroner is made aware of the Daily Star article and demands the "source" be revealed.

Rest in peace Brenda.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  jassi on Mon 2 Mar - 18:21

interested wrote:Hopefully the Coroner is made aware of the Daily Star article and demands the "source" be revealed.

Rest in peace Brenda.

Do you think she is going to be very bothered? - its not as if the information, true or false, is going to affect the outcome.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Mon 2 Mar - 19:16

almostgothic wrote:It may well be that the coroner already knows the name of the source and indeed the identities of others involved in the compilation and dissemination of the dossier if the investigating authorities have done their work.

But she may wish to hear it straight from the horse's mouth for the official record.
If the reply is silence, it will speak volumes to her and the wider public about the integrity of Brunt and the news outlet he works for.

To hell with the protection of sources in this instance.
A woman is dead.
And her family needs to know why.



I agree with "almostgothic" - the Coroner "may wish to hear it straight from the horse's mouth" regarding the dossier AND the Daily Star article (be it accurate or hoax).

Rest in peace Brenda.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Mon 2 Mar - 19:46

jassi wrote:
interested wrote:Hopefully the Coroner is made aware of the Daily Star article and demands the "source" be revealed.

Rest in peace Brenda.

Do you think she is going to be very bothered? - its not as if the information, true or false, is going to affect the outcome.

quite.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  tanszi on Mon 2 Mar - 19:51

I tend to agree with the thought that the Coroner might be interested in the so called "hoax" article.

. I don't agree that because Brenda might have had mental health problems that she was suicidal. not everyone who is unwell is suicidal. However, I don't dismiss the idea that the appalling Sky running banner and whatever it was said indoors by Brunt added to her distress and anguish. that is not to say I consider it drove her to suicide.

Ill wait for the Coroners Verdict and see what if anything happens then.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Mon 2 Mar - 20:55

I've always believed that the purpose of the inquest was to investigate the circumstances of the death and the Coroner has the authority to conduct interviews and secure the scene. I remain hopeful that all the facts will be forthcoming in a report which will cover the intrusion into Brenda's life prior to her death and recommendations to the press on how to prevent further tragedies.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Mon 2 Mar - 21:52

interested wrote:...which will cover the intrusion into Brenda's life prior to her death and recommendations to the press on how to prevent further tragedies.

dream on.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  jassi on Tue 3 Mar - 11:53

It might well cover the role of the press in the case, but I don't think any recommendations will be forthcoming. That is not the role of a coroner.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Tue 3 Mar - 13:43

jassi wrote:It might well cover the role of the press in the case, but I don't think any recommendations will be forthcoming. That is not the role of a coroner.

mr interested made his mind up as to what happened, how it happened, the effect it had and who's to blame, right from the get go and has been looking for something, anything, to support his conclusions ever since. he won't be happy until laws are passed or rewritten to his satisfaction, the UK media, whom he detests, is all shut down, sky shut down, martin brunt shot at dawn and october 4 declared a public holiday in remembrance.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  interested on Tue 3 Mar - 14:35

In Ontario (Canada) the motto of the Coroner is "We speak for the Dead to Protect the Living" and is permitted to make recommendations that attempt to prevent similar deaths in the future.

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Re: Brenda Leyland and the inquest

Post  Guest on Tue 3 Mar - 15:02

interested wrote:In Ontario (Canada) the motto of the Coroner is "We speak for the Dead to Protect the Living" and is permitted to make recommendations that attempt to prevent similar deaths in the future.

the likely cause of death in this case is suicide. i wonder what recommendations would apply?

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