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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 18:26

And I rather imagine His Honour had no intention of Imprisoning or otherwise Punishing TB despite this apparently magnanimous intervention (Reminds me of the much vaunted pleading letter from Healy & McCann to get a Review, despite the fact that it was already on the cards! Another own goal, as it played into Govt/SY hands nicely).

I've said all along I think an Absolute or Conditional Discharge (or Civil Court equivalent - ie rap on the knuckles) would be the right approach.

So that just leaves Costs - and that could be seriously embarrassing for the Plaintiffs: Why did they spend £260k if all they wanted nothing more than a reaffirmation that TB would desist?
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Post  AnnaEsse Wed 6 Feb - 18:26

Just seen this!

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James Murray of The Express interviewed T Bennett today, very interested in Tonys ref in court to #McCann s £4 Million spent on lawyers
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Post  pennylane Wed 6 Feb - 18:31

AnnaEsse wrote:Just seen this!

Katycakes ‏@Katycakes1
James Murray of The Express interviewed T Bennett today, very interested in Tonys ref in court to #McCann s £4 Million spent on lawyers

Made right tossers of themselves haven't they?
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 18:38

Jayelles turned up today but at least she behaved herself! Someone has said elsewhere that Pam Gurney has really gone over to the dark side on Twitter by supporting muratfan.

So he's not quite on his own.
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Post  interested Wed 6 Feb - 18:40

AnnaEsse wrote:Just seen this!

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James Murray of The Express interviewed T Bennett today, very interested in Tonys ref in court to #McCann s £4 Million spent on lawyers

At this point I think the money that was donated by the public to find Madeleine having been spent on lawyers to defend the parents, is what is going to resonate with the general public who up until now are not accustomed to reading just how evil the McCanns are.
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Post  AnnaEsse Wed 6 Feb - 18:41

pennylane wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Just seen this!

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James Murray of The Express interviewed T Bennett today, very interested in Tonys ref in court to #McCann s £4 Million spent on lawyers

Made right tossers of themselves haven't they?

And I hope that interview shows up in the paper. Talking about the money spent on lawyers doesn't breach any undertaking and will show the McCanns up for the tossers they are.
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Post  Panda Wed 6 Feb - 18:47

It is expected that a decision will be made in a weeks time, the Press I think will hang fire until the result is known. If the Judge rules that Tony reneged on an undertaking but since he had not enough money to engage a Lawyer it is obvious that he will be unable to pay a hefty fine . Therefore, he rules that Tony pay £5,000 to cover the Plaintiff's cost for the 2 days in Court and Tony do Community Service . If he violates an undertaing not to publicly air his views on any media he will serve a prison sentence.
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Post  Panda Wed 6 Feb - 18:49

AnnaEsse wrote:
pennylane wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:Just seen this!

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James Murray of The Express interviewed T Bennett today, very interested in Tonys ref in court to #McCann s £4 Million spent on lawyers

Made right tossers of themselves haven't they?

And I hope that interview shows up in the paper. Talking about the money spent on lawyers doesn't breach any undertaking and will show the McCanns up for the tossers they are.
Can Tony actually confirm £4 million was spent on Legal Fees though????
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Post  jeanmonroe Wed 6 Feb - 18:50

.............said on oath that 'Madeleine was abducted'. She conceded that she had been told that but didn't know whether or not that was true. Her information came from her clients.
HER INFORMATION CAME FROM HER CLIENTS.....................The McCanns.

so........................

Ed Miliband said "Madeleine was abducted". He conceded that he had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. His information came from the McCanns.

Harriet Harman and Yvette Cooper said "Madeleine was abducted". They conceded that they had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. Their information came from the McCanns.

David Cameron said "Madeleine was abducted". He conceded that he had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. His information came from the McCanns.

Theresa May said "Madeleine was abducted". She conceded that she had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. Her information came from the McCanns.

Bernard Hogan Howe said "Madeleine was abducted". He conceded that he had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. His information came from the McCanns.

The ENTIRE Leicestershire police force and entire Met police force said "Madeleine was abducted". They conceded that they had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. Their information came from the McCanns.

Oh sod it!

????????????? said "Madeleine was abducted". He/She/They conceded that he had been TOLD that but didn't know whether or not that was TRUE. His/Her/Their information came from the McCanns.

Put whoever you want in place of question marks!
Blair
Branson
Brown
lorraine Kelly
Fiona Fishface
etc., etc.,

It really is ONLY the McCanns that are saying 'Madeleine was abducted'

Not even their own counsel will back them up in a court room!

How unhelpful was she????

Hope her phone is on 'silent' tonight! LOL.

I did notice that Lorraine ' Madeleine WAS abducted ' Kelly, on Loose Women, wasn't wearing her special, precious FindMadeleine wristband and hasn't been for a very long time now..

How very unhelpful and hurtful!
Come on Lorraine! I'm sure your minnions are reading this and your FindMadeleine wristband will be back on your arm tomorrow, never to be taken off again. (you naughty little tinker you!)

Or has poor Madeleine been 'forgotten' in the Kelly household.?
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Post  Chris Wed 6 Feb - 19:13

Panda wrote:It is expected that a decision will be made in a weeks time, the Press I think will hang fire until the result is known. If the Judge rules that Tony reneged on an undertaking but since he had not enough money to engage a Lawyer it is obvious that he will be unable to pay a hefty fine . Therefore, he rules that Tony pay £5,000 to cover the Plaintiff's cost for the 2 days in Court and Tony do Community Service . If he violates an undertaing not to publicly air his views on any media he will serve a prison sentence.

I don't think mix and match sentences are yet a feature of our legal system.
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Post  susible Wed 6 Feb - 19:24

Yes, you're right Chris, community service is an alternative to prison, a fine is a separate punishment and the only way you'll go to prison after being fined is if you don't pay it.

I actually think that if the judge rules that Tony did indeed breach his undertaking, but that Adrienne whatsherface has said that the McCanns don't want him sent to jail blah blah, the judge may way fine Tony a small amount and tell the Mc's to cover their own costs..as lets face it, their line up of lawyers was totally OTT and as such the judge may take the view that it was a sledgehammer to crack a nut approach and (also a waste of court time) and rule accordingly to prevent further misuse of the system
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Post  Lillyofthevalley Wed 6 Feb - 20:22

susible wrote:Yes, you're right Chris, community service is an alternative to prison, a fine is a separate punishment and the only way you'll go to prison after being fined is if you don't pay it.

I actually think that if the judge rules that Tony did indeed breach his undertaking, but that Adrienne whatsherface has said that the McCanns don't want him sent to jail blah blah, the judge may way fine Tony a small amount and tell the Mc's to cover their own costs..as lets face it, their line up of lawyers was totally OTT and as such the judge may take the view that it was a sledgehammer to crack a nut approach and (also a waste of court time) and rule accordingly to prevent further misuse of the system


I hope so susible Tony needs (deserves) all the help he can get.......and as you say to stop any further misuse of the system (BY THE MCCANNS) by any one thinking of it.
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Post  kitti Wed 6 Feb - 20:41

What is the point off the Mccanns paying 400k to take Tony to court to fine him £500 ....it doesn't make sense.
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 20:45

kitti wrote:What is the point off the Mccanns paying 400k to take Tony to court to fine him £500 ....it doesn't make sense.


Situation normal for that lot!
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Post  tanszi Wed 6 Feb - 21:14

if all the McCs wanted was for Tony to shut up why this huge court case, why the huge costs involved and an additional QC. i think Gs Levenson speech is ringing in his ears right now, theyve also heard that the Judge is interested in other points tony raised but which could not currently be considered, but might at a future date. I think the McCs are terrified of that possible future date and interest in the fund and all the reporting. jimo
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 21:23

I'd agree that the means considerably outweighed the apparent ends - but we are dealing here with people with delusions of importance exercising their muscle. They just can't help themselves.
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Post  wjk Wed 6 Feb - 21:24

tanszi wrote:if all the McCs wanted was for Tony to shut up why this huge court case, why the huge costs involved and an additional QC. i think Gs Levenson speech is ringing in his ears right now, theyve also heard that the Judge is interested in other points tony raised but which could not currently be considered, but might at a future date. I think the McCs are terrified of that possible future date and interest in the fund and all the reporting. jimo
Yep, I think you're right, tanzi.
How they must dread a full libel court case!!
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Post  almostgothic Wed 6 Feb - 21:36

Inclined to agree with you, TEiN.

It's part security shield overkill, part intimidation and part 'fur-coat-no-knickers'.


Plaintiff leans smugly over garden wall and says to neighbour:

"Of course, we're a two QC family now ......"


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Post  Panda Wed 6 Feb - 21:39

I don't think Tony will be heavily fined because he couldn't afford a Lawyer to represent him in Court , but the judge would have to recognise that he reneged , not once , on the undertaking not to Libel the McCanns. We don't have a transcript of the proceedings so can't really say what the outcome will be , except I think he will be warned against being libellous to the McCanns or the Fund in future.
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 21:40

Potentially libellous .............. the distinction is crucial.
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Post  Lillyofthevalley Wed 6 Feb - 21:56

kitti wrote:What is the point off the Mccanns paying 400k to take Tony to court to fine him £500 ....it doesn't make sense.


I think this is more about power, drumming fear in to people, not to mess with us........remember as Katey says CR work tirelessly behind the scenes for free..........dream on Katey.
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Post  Angelina Wed 6 Feb - 22:06

Panda wrote:I don't think Tony will be heavily fined because he couldn't afford a Lawyer to represent him in Court , but the judge would have to recognise that he reneged , not once , on the undertaking not to Libel the McCanns. We don't have a transcript of the proceedings so can't really say what the outcome will be , except I think he will be warned against being libellous to the McCanns or the Fund in future.

He could be given a suspended sentence. No prison but puts one foot wrong later and he goes straight there (without passing Go and collecting £200!)
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 22:10

http://t.co/eg2WNXqg

The BBC report is quite reasonable but it is very sad to see Tony looking so defeated.

I doubt that a certain pair feel any remorse over what they have done but they damn well should.
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Post  malena stool Wed 6 Feb - 22:18

His conscience is clear and he'll sleep well once this is over, more than can ever be said for the McCanns.
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Post  Guest Wed 6 Feb - 22:19

Not Born Yesterday wrote:http://t.co/eg2WNXqg

The BBC report is quite reasonable but it is very sad to see Tony looking so defeated.

I doubt that a certain pair feel any remorse over what they have done but they damn well should.


True - but to them TB is mere collateral damage.

The crux of the matter is the lack of remorse over the fate of Madeleine (Their Daughter).
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