Re: Case Files discussions

4timesanan Mon 8 Feb - 18:12

having just reread textusa's original theory....regarding swingers...i have ambivilent thoughts on the gaspers statement because savio gaspar says he didn't feel that that payne conversation was regarding maddie....i just dont know..but i do not like the bathing stuff....not normal at all!

Guest Mon 8 Feb - 18:41

sans_souci wrote:
Anyway, that said, moving to the question of "pro" sites - I think you will find that most of them were set up to provide a place to discuss the case for those who are not convinced that the McCanns are the personification of all evil.

So Sans_souci does this mean you think the Mccanns are the personification of pure evil. You are a member on an Anti mccann site so it must mean you do. Otherwise you wouldn't be here. Either way I couldn't care less as everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Guest Mon 8 Feb - 19:31

I think you will find that most of the Pro sites are set up to defend the parents at all costs. I have yet to see one of them that is actually interested in what happened to Madeleine.

Guest Mon 8 Feb - 19:34

The Famous Grouse wrote:I think you will find that most of the Pro sites are set up to defend the parents at all costs. I have yet to see one of them that is actually interested in what happened to Madeleine.

Same thing happens on Sky FG. All pros on the Madeleine thread will defend the parents without giving a thought about Madeleine.

**kitti** Mon 8 Feb - 19:43

4timesanan wrote:having just reread textusa's original theory....regarding swingers...i have ambivilent thoughts on the gaspers statement because savio gaspar says he didn't feel that that payne conversation was regarding maddie....i just dont know..but i do not like the bathing stuff....not normal at all!

I think women are more sensitive and have certain 'feelings' i.e. gut feelings and these come with being a mother. Im not saying men dont have these feelings but women can 'tune in' better to this.

The fact that Mr Gasper didnt notice anything out off the ordinary and Mrs Gasper did, proves my point. Its like, women dont actually think constantly about this but its in their subconscience more, i know that if someone asked me if they could bathe my child i would INSTANTLY think....WTF....NO WAY...but men dont seem to have that at the forefront off their minds like us, they would probably think, oh, ok, thanks alot....and thats it.

But Mr Gasper DID notice it if i remember but Mrs Gasper put two and two together by Mr Gasper probably DIDNT want to believe it off a friend.

Well thats my opinion anyway and im speaking for myself not for all MANKIND....tho im not a man off course and i wouldnt even TRY to get into their brains (If i could find it).

**the one and only big_l** Mon 8 Feb - 19:45

kitti wrote:
4timesanan wrote:having just reread textusa's original theory....regarding swingers...i have ambivilent thoughts on the gaspers statement because savio gaspar says he didn't feel that that payne conversation was regarding maddie....i just dont know..but i do not like the bathing stuff....not normal at all!

I think women are more sensitive and have certain 'feelings' i.e. gut feelings and these come with being a mother. Im not saying men dont have these feelings but women can 'tune in' better to this.

The fact that Mr Gasper didnt notice anything out off the ordinary and Mrs Gasper did, proves my point. Its like, women dont actually think constantly about this but its in their subconscience more, i know that if someone asked me if they could bathe my child i would INSTANTLY think....WTF....NOW WAY...but men dont seem to have that at the forefront off their minds like us, they would probably think, oh, ok, thanks alot....and thats it.

But Mr Gasper DID notice it if i remember but Mrs Gasper put two and two together by Mr Gasper probably DIDNT want to believe it off a friend.

We ll thats my opinion anyway and im speaking for myself not for all MANKIND....tho im not aman off course and i wouldnt even TRY to get into their brains (If i could find it).

i agreed my wife would have told him where to go with a slap

**kitti** Mon 8 Feb - 20:06

I think you have to go with your gut feeling, if what you saw was not 'normal', then it wasnt.

You can go away and talk it through in your mind but it wont take away the feeling you felt when you heard what that person said...

**tanszi** Mon 8 Feb - 20:24

I agree Kitti, if it doesnt feel right, it isnt right.

**lea** Mon 8 Feb - 20:52

well,i think you all must have helpfull husbands lol,
i didnt get any help bathing my kids from him,lol
hes always worked late nights though so that may have something to do with it.

**Susan** Mon 8 Feb - 21:29

sans_souci wrote:
A few points. Why, on the basis of one rather unclear statement, should thay have been arrested and interviewed under caution, and why would the police have had to advise forum memers of such an action? The statement is full of very uncertain terms, and a rather hysterical conculsion about internet sites. Her husbands statement does not seem to be of much support:

Personally I think a police statement made by friends of the ones names, namely Gerry McCann and David Payne is far more proof than there is of your friends acusing Schnuffel of being a pedo, with no proof whatsoever.....yet you are all jumping for joy like its the gospel truth....why is that?

jimuck Mon 8 Feb - 21:30

Claudia79 wrote:When I was a baby/small child my dad bathed me as many times as my mum. We lived in a foreign country and they both worked different shifts so I wouldn't have to be cared for by a family member or a babysitter and so I would never be alone. Not even for one minute. For five years, they worked opposite shifts for me and my well being. My dad changed nappies, bathed me, cooked for me, dressed me (although my mum said his taste was very questionable), took me to playgrounds, took me to the paediatrician, etc. And that is something I will be grateful for everyday of my life.

What a beautiful post.

**Susan** Mon 8 Feb - 21:37

sans_souci wrote:

Anyway, that said, moving to the question of "pro" sites - I think you will find that most of them were set up to provide a place to discuss the case for those who are not convinced that the McCanns are the personification of all evil.

Sans look at the stats.....isnt it the "Pro" sites that have a far greater number of members? For instance how many members did the 3A's have in comparison to JATYK and a few other insignificant forums like Nesslings one with the yellow bows...

The tide is turning and thats what eats up the "Antis"....you're outnumbered sorry to say which means the McCanns have less support than they did maybe because the public are realising they arent so innocent after all....

As for them being evil....NOPE, I dont think so but they are survivors and want to keep their home, careers, the twins....

.....and the money they have left from the fund!

**Claudia79** Mon 8 Feb - 22:10

jimuck wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:When I was a baby/small child my dad bathed me as many times as my mum. We lived in a foreign country and they both worked different shifts so I wouldn't have to be cared for by a family member or a babysitter and so I would never be alone. Not even for one minute. For five years, they worked opposite shifts for me and my well being. My dad changed nappies, bathed me, cooked for me, dressed me (although my mum said his taste was very questionable), took me to playgrounds, took me to the paediatrician, etc. And that is something I will be grateful for everyday of my life.

What a beautiful post.

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**lea** Mon 8 Feb - 22:14

Claudia79 wrote:
jimuck wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:When I was a baby/small child my dad bathed me as many times as my mum. We lived in a foreign country and they both worked different shifts so I wouldn't have to be cared for by a family member or a babysitter and so I would never be alone. Not even for one minute. For five years, they worked opposite shifts for me and my well being. My dad changed nappies, bathed me, cooked for me, dressed me (although my mum said his taste was very questionable), took me to playgrounds, took me to the paediatrician, etc. And that is something I will be grateful for everyday of my life.

What a beautiful post.

Thank you, Jimuck. I'm not sure it's that beautiful. But it certainly is true.

youve been blessed with good decent parents,
you are very lucky,

**Claudia79** Mon 8 Feb - 22:16

lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
jimuck wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:When I was a baby/small child my dad bathed me as many times as my mum. We lived in a foreign country and they both worked different shifts so I wouldn't have to be cared for by a family member or a babysitter and so I would never be alone. Not even for one minute. For five years, they worked opposite shifts for me and my well being. My dad changed nappies, bathed me, cooked for me, dressed me (although my mum said his taste was very questionable), took me to playgrounds, took me to the paediatrician, etc. And that is something I will be grateful for everyday of my life.

What a beautiful post.

Thank you, Jimuck. I'm not sure it's that beautiful. But it certainly is true.

youve been blessed with good decent parents,
you are very lucky,

I have, Lea.
I am very lucky and I'm aware of that. And grateful for it and for all the good things in my life.

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**lea** Mon 8 Feb - 22:21

Claudia79 wrote:
lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
jimuck wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:When I was a baby/small child my dad bathed me as many times as my mum. We lived in a foreign country and they both worked different shifts so I wouldn't have to be cared for by a family member or a babysitter and so I would never be alone. Not even for one minute. For five years, they worked opposite shifts for me and my well being. My dad changed nappies, bathed me, cooked for me, dressed me (although my mum said his taste was very questionable), took me to playgrounds, took me to the paediatrician, etc. And that is something I will be grateful for everyday of my life.

What a beautiful post.

Thank you, Jimuck. I'm not sure it's that beautiful. But it certainly is true.

youve been blessed with good decent parents,
you are very lucky,

I have, Lea.
I am very lucky and I'm aware of that. And grateful for it and for all the good things in my life.

good for you claudia,
nice you feel life is good,
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**Claudia79** Mon 8 Feb - 22:24

lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
jimuck wrote:

What a beautiful post.

Thank you, Jimuck. I'm not sure it's that beautiful. But it certainly is true.

youve been blessed with good decent parents,
you are very lucky,

I have, Lea.
I am very lucky and I'm aware of that. And grateful for it and for all the good things in my life.

good for you claudia,
nice you feel life is good,

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**lea** Mon 8 Feb - 22:27

Claudia79 wrote:
lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:
lea wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:

Thank you, Jimuck. I'm not sure it's that beautiful. But it certainly is true.

youve been blessed with good decent parents,
you are very lucky,

I have, Lea.
I am very lucky and I'm aware of that. And grateful for it and for all the good things in my life.

good for you claudia,
nice you feel life is good,

We should always appreciate the good things in our lives. That's my motto. I try to live by it.

i like your way of thinking,
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**lynn** Tue 9 Feb - 0:38

The article by the Forensic Astrologist pointed towards that sort of thing. No decent human being would say what Payne said either in jest or for real. Just because they are in the medical field and supposed to be professional people does not exclude them from the world of porn! Looks like Gaspar has hit the nail on the head. IMHO I do feel Madeleine met her fate through that sort of abuse. Of course, she could have run away!!! Unfortunately, could not be so. The dogs did find "something". Dogs don't lie! Probably this is the reason whey the whole lot of them keep a wall of silence lest their lifestyle gets exposed. Some big names could be mixed in amongst them and would we be surprised....no.

vivvy Tue 9 Feb - 13:39

lynn wrote:The article by the Forensic Astrologist pointed towards that sort of thing. No decent human being would say what Payne said either in jest or for real. Just because they are in the medical field and supposed to be professional people does not exclude them from the world of porn! Looks like Gaspar has hit the nail on the head. IMHO I do feel Madeleine met her fate through that sort of abuse. Of course, she could have run away!!! Unfortunately, could not be so. The dogs did find "something". Dogs don't lie! Probably this is the reason whey the whole lot of them keep a wall of silence lest their lifestyle gets exposed. Some big names could be mixed in amongst them and would we be surprised....no.

I agree unfortunately. I think paedophilia is the reason Maddie is 'missing' and it seems that Payne and Mccann have certain links in this regard.

Guest Tue 9 Feb - 13:40

tanszi wrote:I agree Kitti, if it doesnt feel right, it isnt right.

Haha, I was just watching Judge Judy, and she said exactly the same thing to some teenager who nicked an iPod. Oh, how I would love our favourite Celebrity Child Neglecters to be up in front of her!

Guest Tue 9 Feb - 13:41

vivvy wrote:
lynn wrote:The article by the Forensic Astrologist pointed towards that sort of thing. No decent human being would say what Payne said either in jest or for real. Just because they are in the medical field and supposed to be professional people does not exclude them from the world of porn! Looks like Gaspar has hit the nail on the head. IMHO I do feel Madeleine met her fate through that sort of abuse. Of course, she could have run away!!! Unfortunately, could not be so. The dogs did find "something". Dogs don't lie! Probably this is the reason whey the whole lot of them keep a wall of silence lest their lifestyle gets exposed. Some big names could be mixed in amongst them and would we be surprised....no.

I agree unfortunately. I think paedophilia is the reason Maddie is 'missing' and it seems that Payne and Mccann have certain links in this regard.

Yes, it's simple, really. No body = no Post Mortem.

**fred** Tue 9 Feb - 13:42

vivvy wrote:

I agree unfortunately. I think paedophilia is the reason Maddie is 'missing' and it seems that Payne and Mccann have certain links in this regard.

That's why the body couldn't be found! Evidence maybe?

duncanmac Tue 9 Feb - 13:55

There is always something that puzzles me about the video of madeleine, the one were she bites her lip and looks up.
She looks frightened, and appears to look UP at whoever is holding the camera.
And yet the camera is being held at eye level to where the child is standing, or is it just me.
Perhaps Sean or Amelie were operating it ?

vivvy Tue 9 Feb - 14:35

fred wrote:
vivvy wrote:

I agree unfortunately. I think paedophilia is the reason Maddie is 'missing' and it seems that Payne and Mccann have certain links in this regard.

That's why the body couldn't be found! Evidence maybe?

Yes, absolutely. The body had to be hidden at all costs and never discovered.

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