Re: Sky News 11.30 Press conference live

**lea** Fri 19 Feb - 12:51

wjk wrote:I didn't watch either lea, couldn't bare too

i didnt want to risk smashing my tv screen,so just reading,and didnt want putting off my lunch,

**LJC** Fri 19 Feb - 12:53

There are dedicated cold case review teams in Britain comprising retired high ranking detectives and overseen by serving high ranking detectives. They are specialised teams. They collate and store information on a special data base system, just like Kate and Gerry want. It would save all that messing about trying to get all of the other organisations, as Gerry calls them, to co-operate with each other.

Nice and simple. Just ask...

JOHNFRANCIS Fri 19 Feb - 12:56

Kate says theres alittle girl missing Its still missing.FFS.

**AnnaEsse** Fri 19 Feb - 13:01

Gerry talks about all that information, not even on the same data base. Ahem! What about the info gathered by Metodo 3, Oakley International, Dave Edgar and sidekick and all the info gathered by their own dedicated lines? Has all that been passed to the police? Or, which data bases might all that be on?

**halfamo** Fri 19 Feb - 13:01

I missed it had to go out so just catching up.Well what to say its these very sad faces of Kates i find odd compare to Portugal to highlights bling photo ops each with their happy smiling faces pictures of Kate looking off into the distance under trees full of blossum ,gazing out to sea,she really must have spent time in front of the mirror practicing all these sad sad looks.Does'nt fool anybody Kate .Sorry.As for Gerry its his humble look seen it all before.He's really trying hard to keep the excitement hidden at the thought of all that sueing money.

Lizzy11268 Fri 19 Feb - 13:02

I've just this minute watched it - It was my little 'uns naptime so had to get him settled first.

Didnt see anything new in it really.

A couple of things struck me though:

Firstly, much as people around here see through them, I actually think from a purely unbiased perspective of those who don't take an active interest in the case as we do, that they actually come across quite well. Yes, Kate does look ill and I imagine it garners them sympathy in a lot of ways. Secondly, at least in that particular Press Conference, (I havent watched all of it because even Sky got bored!) Gerry does not really come across as arrogant.

The points they were making were well put across. If I was watching that just because I happened to have the news on, without knowing much background, and without the benefit of knowledge that I have now, I would think "Oh my God, the Police are ignoring things that could find Madeleine!"

Of course it helps, that at least in the portion that I observed, there were no leading or difficult questions asked.

That was trying to look at it from the "laymans" point of view.

Now, I still am not convinced that they are guilty of anything further than leaving the kids initially, and I am not convinced by Sr Amaral's theory (although I will fight to my dying breathe to support his right to have and discuss that theory). I am convinced neither by abduction or accident or homicide. The truth is I just don't know.

However I DO believe that The Mccann's behaviour since the beginning has damaged any search for Madeleine far more than any book that will ever be written by any Police detective. So, no matter what the truth of what happened that day, until they stop worrying about the ins and outs of what people are saying about them, and just get on with it (Scream from the rooftops to get the case re-opened,Scream from the rooftops to get someone completely unbiased to review what has gone before, insist on attempting a reconstruction, villify their own friends in the press if they won't help,find an investigative firm that specialises in Child Abduction, I could go on) they are never going to achieve what they insist to this day they want to achieve - and thats to find Madeleine.

**halfamo** Fri 19 Feb - 13:07

The point is why she suddenly looks ill she certainly did'nt look ill in Portugal she was blooming even though they were screaming abduction from day 1.

**kitti** Fri 19 Feb - 13:09

jypsybear wrote:Am i right in saying they had so many days to stop the pj shelving the case ? before it was shelved.

Yes they were informed off the time limits and didnt take advantage off it.

Arsenal666 Fri 19 Feb - 13:15

Lizzy11268 wrote:I've just this minute watched it - It was my little 'uns naptime so had to get him settled first.

Didnt see anything new in it really.

A couple of things struck me though:

Firstly, much as people around here see through them, I actually think from a purely unbiased perspective of those who don't take an active interest in the case as we do, that they actually come across quite well. Yes, Kate does look ill and I imagine it garners them sympathy in a lot of ways. Secondly, at least in that particular Press Conference, (I havent watched all of it because even Sky got bored!) Gerry does not really come across as arrogant.

The points they were making were well put across. If I was watching that just because I happened to have the news on, without knowing much background, and without the benefit of knowledge that I have now, I would think "Oh my God, the Police are ignoring things that could find Madeleine!"

Of course it helps, that at least in the portion that I observed, there were no leading or difficult questions asked.

That was trying to look at it from the "laymans" point of view.

Now, I still am not convinced that they are guilty of anything further than leaving the kids initially, and I am not convinced by Sr Amaral's theory (although I will fight to my dying breathe to support his right to have and discuss that theory). I am convinced neither by abduction or accident or homicide. The truth is I just don't know.

However I DO believe that The Mccann's behaviour since the beginning has damaged any search for Madeleine far more than any book that will ever be written by any Police detective. So, no matter what the truth of what happened that day, until they stop worrying about the ins and outs of what people are saying about them, and just get on with it (Scream from the rooftops to get the case re-opened,Scream from the rooftops to get someone completely unbiased to review what has gone before, insist on attempting a reconstruction, villify their own friends in the press if they won't help,find an investigative firm that specialises in Child Abduction, I could go on) they are never going to achieve what they insist to this day they want to achieve - and thats to find Madeleine.

So you believe MBM is alive do you? Sky News 11.30 Press conference live - Page 3 25346

**ann_chovey** Fri 19 Feb - 13:16

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Madeleine-McCann-Kate-And-Gerry-McCann-To-Talk-About-Amaral-Book-Banned-By-Court-In-Portugal/Article/201002315553190?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0&lid=ARTICLE_15553190_Madeleine_McCann%3A_Kate_And_Gerry_McCann_To_Talk_About_Amaral_Book_Banned_By_Court_In_Portugal

the statement, they look tired and furtive i.m.o.

Guest Fri 19 Feb - 13:30

MBM is most probaly NOT ALIVE

end of sadly

Lizzy11268 Fri 19 Feb - 13:32

Arsenal666 wrote: So you believe MBM is alive do you?

No I don't. I just don't know what happened to her.

Guest Fri 19 Feb - 13:48

AnnaEsse wrote:Gerry talks about all that information, not even on the same data base. Ahem! What about the info gathered by Metodo 3, Oakley International, Dave Edgar and sidekick and all the info gathered by their own dedicated lines? Has all that been passed to the police? Or, which data bases might all that be on?

You'd think Gerry would have picked up a bit of Access while he was busy learning PowerPoint! Sky News 11.30 Press conference live - Page 3 23324

**kitti** Fri 19 Feb - 13:51

amethyst wrote:pity the dogs were not mentioned........you know...those hounds that smell blood and dead bodies oh well

Thats because sandra was banned lol.....woof...woof...snifff....snifff.....

**fedrules** Fri 19 Feb - 13:57

Just watched the McCanns' statement on Sky and I'm afraid that , as ever in these rehearsed situations where they are asked no tricky questions, they seem quite convincing. I don't believe them because I have spent so many hours looking into the case and have read the now- banned book, but I agree with Lizzy that many, particularly the more xenophobic types, who don't have an interest in the case will.

However, the facts that have emerged will make people think again so it is a hollow victory IMO.

MilkyWay Fri 19 Feb - 13:58

I don't know what happened, how it happened, but I trust the dogs. Gerry stated that the dogs' findings are intelligence and not evidence, so intelligence it is and fine by me to form a personal opinion. If there was a trial then the question of evidence should be considered but listening to witnesses under oath and having access to all relevant documents and files the intelligence might, just might turn into evidence. Who knows?

tourmaline Fri 19 Feb - 14:14

This is the first press conference for along time where they have sat at a desk and she hasn't been grabbing at his nether regions ha ha.
This type of press conference planned in advance reminds me of past press conferences when police and body language experts are monitoring there suspects, I think that is one of the reasons (amongst loads) that they look shifty today.

Guest Fri 19 Feb - 14:27

what did HAPEN
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I BELIEVE the dogs

Guest Fri 19 Feb - 14:37

Lizzy11268 wrote:I've just this minute watched it - It was my little 'uns naptime so had to get him settled first.

Didnt see anything new in it really.

A couple of things struck me though:

Firstly, much as people around here see through them, I actually think from a purely unbiased perspective of those who don't take an active interest in the case as we do, that they actually come across quite well. Yes, Kate does look ill and I imagine it garners them sympathy in a lot of ways. Secondly, at least in that particular Press Conference, (I havent watched all of it because even Sky got bored!) Gerry does not really come across as arrogant.

The points they were making were well put across. If I was watching that just because I happened to have the news on, without knowing much background, and without the benefit of knowledge that I have now, I would think "Oh my God, the Police are ignoring things that could find Madeleine!"

Of course it helps, that at least in the portion that I observed, there were no leading or difficult questions asked.

That was trying to look at it from the "laymans" point of view.

Now, I still am not convinced that they are guilty of anything further than leaving the kids initially, and I am not convinced by Sr Amaral's theory (although I will fight to my dying breathe to support his right to have and discuss that theory). I am convinced neither by abduction or accident or homicide. The truth is I just don't know.

However I DO believe that The Mccann's behaviour since the beginning has damaged any search for Madeleine far more than any book that will ever be written by any Police detective. So, no matter what the truth of what happened that day, until they stop worrying about the ins and outs of what people are saying about them, and just get on with it (Scream from the rooftops to get the case re-opened,Scream from the rooftops to get someone completely unbiased to review what has gone before, insist on attempting a reconstruction, villify their own friends in the press if they won't help,find an investigative firm that specialises in Child Abduction, I could go on) they are never going to achieve what they insist to this day they want to achieve - and thats to find Madeleine.

Totally agree. excellent post Lizzy. Sky News 11.30 Press conference live - Page 3 307691

4timesanan Fri 19 Feb - 14:44

snide comments..we know mr amaral has his supporters, but not all the PJ are like him, we have met some good portugeuse police'.....this was the gist of the interview many many leads need following up, and we want a review, plus theres a little girl still missing ... .the kat wouldnt even look anyone in the eye.....

**dutchclogs** Fri 19 Feb - 14:47

steve1295 wrote:KATE N GERRY,,,,

I Agree with you steve, I will join you If you don't mind Sky News 11.30 Press conference live - Page 3 541656

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to the pair of you greedy greedy B**gers.

**LJC** Fri 19 Feb - 14:48

Why London? If I wanted Leicestershire Police to take a more active role I would hold a press conference outside their Police HQ.

12345 Fri 19 Feb - 14:50

Have only just seen this, but had a couple of thoughts:

Kate mentions wanting "to achieve an effective search." It's well known that the most effective search for a missing child is the one performed within a few hours of them going missing. Not everyone performed an effective search that night did they?

Also, Gerry mentions wanting the different authorities to "work together". Perhaps if de Freitas had attended the hearing we would have found out that they WERE doing. I do agree with Gerry though - I think it would be fantastic if the British authorities started to cooperate with the Portuguese!!!

**POPPY1** Fri 19 Feb - 14:50

dutchclogs wrote:
steve1295 wrote:KATE N GERRY,,,,

I Agree with you steve, I will join you If you don't mind to the pair of you greedy greedy B**gers.

**ann_chovey** Fri 19 Feb - 14:52

Martin Brunt, short term success but could go on for a number of years....

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/Kate-And-Gerry-McCann-Win-Legal-Challenge-Upholding-Ban-On-The-Book-Maddie-The-Truth-Of-The-Lie-By-Goncalo-Amaral/Video/201002315552188?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_3&lid=VIDEO_15552188_Kate_And_Gerry_McCann_Win_Legal_Challenge_Upholding_Ban_On_The_Book_Maddie%3A_The_Truth_Of_The_Lie_By_Goncalo_Amaral

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