Murder of Joana Cipriano

Tony Bennett wrote:As Aesop would say: 'Thieves falling out'.

They show no mercy to one another when things really get tough

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I hope it gets tougher on them

MsTaken wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:You'd think that the British press would come out with a story about this juicy news....

You are right, it makes no sense. They are happy to fly over to Belgium and places where dud sightings of Madeleine have been reported but wont report this court case showing that Amaral is being stitched up.

Why are they not reporting on the case ?...... surely it would be right up their alley to get an angle on Mr Amaral - seems the case may go Mr Amaral's way ....I really hope that monster bitch of a woman gets whats coming to her and Mr Amaral is given the respect he deserves for standing up for the truth and to the powers that brought about his downfall.......

M.T.P. wrote:

MsTaken wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:You'd think that the British press would come out with a story about this juicy news....

You are right, it makes no sense. They are happy to fly over to Belgium and places where dud sightings of Madeleine have been reported but wont report this court case showing that Amaral is being stitched up.

Why are they not reporting on the case ?...... surely it would be right up their alley to get an angle on Mr Amaral - seems the case may go Mr Amaral's way ....I really hope that monster bitch of a woman gets whats coming to her and Mr Amaral is given the respect he deserves for standing up for the truth and to the powers that brought about his downfall.......

It makes me mad that the Brazilian guy who got shot in the head has has alot less attention.....and he was totally innocent and no one can deny that he was innocent....and this killer gets all the sympathy when she is a liar!

Joana Case: Carlos Anjos, president of ASFIC/PJ, denounces

by Henrique Machado

Five Polícia Judiciária inspectors are on trial over torture on Leonor Cipriano, but the plaintiff’s lawyer, who got involved in this case under orders of the McCanns’ detectives, has already tried a deal. “He proposed to our lawyer that we let Gonçalo Amaral ‘fall’ and in exchange he would redraw the torture accusations against the other four inspectors”, denounces Carlos Anjos, the president of the PJ’s union. And Aragão Correia also confirms: “If the other four want to confess that it was him who gave the order to assault…”

First, “the strange lawyer swap” of Leonor at the beginning of the trial. Then, “the new lawyer, who even admits to having already been paid by the McCann couple’s detectives, attacks exclusively Gonçalo Amaral. When what is the issue is the supposed torture of the plaintiff by other PJ inspectors”. And finally, Carlos Anjos lost his doubts with the “dishonest attempt at a deal”.

Aragão Correia, according to the president of ASFIC, “allows for the conclusion that Gonçalo Amaral is the target. He is only worried about trying the inspector who participated in the investigation into the McCann couple, within the Maddie case, instead of trying the supposed assault on his present client…”

Carlos Anjos advances that ASFIC’s reply was ‘no’. “The five are innocent, and we are either saved together, or we fall as one. This lawyer has worked for Método 3. Then, he tells that the McCanns, or someone on their behalf, asked for him to get interested in the supposed assault on Leonor. That he should discover what Gonçalo Amaral’s role in the entire case was. And now this proposition…”

“Photos of Leonor may have been taken after the 15th”

Apart from the fact that it is “clear” to Carlos Anjos that Gonçalo Amaral “is the target to shoot down in this trial”, the president of ASFIC/PJ recalls that “the only persons who have always maintained the same version, because they speak the truth, are the inspectors. Just listen to the constant contradictions from Leonor – as well as the indications that were given by the director of the prison in Odemira for a service information from the chief of the guards about Leonor’s health condition to be altered. But the stupefying fact is that the person who is on trial for falsifying a service information is an inspector [António Cardoso]. It is already proved that Leonor’s confession [over the death of her daughter Joana] is dated the 13th of October 2004, not the 14th, like the Accusation says, and there is nothing to sustain that the photographs [of the violence marks on the body] were taken on the 15th. They may have been taken days later. The PJ delivered Leonor back to prison only with a few scratches.”

“If the others say that he gave the order…”

Aragão Correia, the present lawyer for Leonor Cipriano who had already admitted to getting involved in the case at the request of the McCanns’ detectives, also recognizes to CM that he tried “to reach a deal” with the five policemen’s defense for the other four to incriminate Gonçalo Amaral. “I confronted the lawyer of the other four inspectors [three of which stand accused of torture and one of falsifying the service information] and I told them that if they wanted to confess that it was Gonçalo Amaral who gave the order to torture Leonor Cipriano, we could try to reach a deal…” Aragão Correia says that “this is normal in any process” – and he refuses to admit that the persecution of Gonçalo Amaral is related to the McCanns. He approached the case on request of the couple’s detectives, but now he guarantees that nobody is paying him.

Details

Employees heard – The trial of the inspectors who stand accused of torture over Leonor Cipriano continues today at the Court of Faro, at 9 a.m., and the testimonies of a prison guard, of the doctors who observed the victim and of the two employees who took the photographs of Leonor’s body at Odemira prison are expected.

Different accusations – Despite Gonçalo Amaral being the target of Leonor’s lawyer, the former investigator of the Maddie case answers over the less serious crimes of omission of denunciation and false testimony. It is Leonel Marques, Marques Bom and Pereira Cristóvão who stand trial for torture. Concerning António Cardoso, the accusation sustains that he falsified the service information.

“We are innocent” – Carlos Anjos never had any doubts about the interest that moves Leonor’s lawyer in the process, yet he clarifies: “The only deal that we accept is the one to clear the five PJ inspectors. We are innocent.”


source: Correio da Manhã, 04.11.2008
By Astro

PJ Inspectors enticed to betray Gonçalo Amaral - 24Horas

Joana's mother's lawyer proposes secret deal to policemen's defence lawyer














(article to follow soon)

Do you know when this case will end Paula?

Aragão Correia, the present lawyer for Leonor Cipriano who had already admitted to getting involved in the case at the request of the McCanns’ detectives, also recognizes to CM that he tried “to reach a deal” with the five policemen’s defense for the other four to incriminate Gonçalo Amaral. “I confronted the lawyer of the other four inspectors [three of which stand accused of torture and one of falsifying the service information] and I told them that if they wanted to confess that it was Gonçalo Amaral who gave the order to torture Leonor Cipriano, we could try to reach a deal…



How disgusting!!!

Melanie wrote:Do you know when this case will end Paula?

Mel, i read in Pt media that ex-PJ lawyers want to end the trial this week!

Leonor Cipriano’s lawyer wanted to close a secret deal with PJ inspectors

If you betray Gonçalo you can get away with it!

by Miguel Ferreira

Aragão Correia wanted the PJ inspectors to say that they only tortured Leonor under orders from Gonçalo Amaral. But he wasn’t lucky


Last week, Joana’s mother’s lawyer suggested a secret deal to the lawyer of the PJ inspectors that stand accused of torturing Leonor Cipriano, in order to frame Gonçalo Amaral and to get the policemen off the hook. Marcos Aragão Correia was ready to request a reduction of the penalty for four of the arguidos if they would assume in court that they tortured Joana’s mother under the orders of Gonçalo Amaral. This idea was brought to the president of the Association of Criminal Investigation Employees (ASFIC), who immediately rejected it. “The proposal was clearly directed towards solving the problem of the four arguidos by accusing Gonçalo Amaral”, confirmed Carlos Anjos, who represents the criminal investigators. The response was immediate: “I refused straight away because I don’t cut deals”, he said to 24Horas. Carlos Anjos further explained that “despite the fact that Gonçalo Amaral is no longer an associate, he was a member of the police; he represented the institution within the criminal investigation”. On the other hand, Anjos says that he “continues to believe in the arguidos’ innocence”.

The inspectors’ lawyer, Pragal Colaço, didn’t deny the conversation with Aragão Correia. Leonor’s lawyer on the other hand had no problems whatsoever in confirming the attempt at a deal and said that he’d done it because he found out that “one of the arguidos, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, confessed inside the PJ that he received orders from Amaral to torture Leonor”, as he explained to 24Horas. Paulo Pereira Cristóvão preferred “not to make any comment” on this situation.

Leonor to be heard

The third session of the trial of the PJ inspectors that stand accused of torturing Leonor Cipriano takes place today. Gonçalo Amaral’s lawyer, António Cabrita, is going to request for Joana’s mother to be heard again. The lawyer wants to clarify a “lie” from Leonor or from her lawyer. Cabrita refers to an article that was published in a national newspaper where Aragão Correia admits to having visited Leonor in prison, on the night of the 30th of October, which was after she was heard during the first session of the trial. The lawyer refers that it was necessary to calm down the assistant who was “very nervous” following the questions that were asked from her by the PJ inspectors’ lawyers. But during the second session, one day later, when António Cabrita asked Leonor Cipriano if she had received any visits at the prison, she replied that she had not. “Someone is lying”, the lawyer says.



source: 24Horas, 04.11.2008, paper edition

The inspectors’ lawyer, Pragal Colaço, didn’t deny the conversation with Aragão Correia. Leonor’s lawyer on the other hand had no problems whatsoever in confirming the attempt at a deal and said that he’d done it because he found out that “one of the arguidos, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, confessed inside the PJ that he received orders from Amaral to torture Leonor”, as he explained to 24Horas. Paulo Pereira Cristóvão preferred “not to make any comment” on this situation.



I'm shocked at this....is there any way its true Paula?

Ambersuz wrote:The inspectors’ lawyer, Pragal Colaço, didn’t deny the conversation with Aragão Correia. Leonor’s lawyer on the other hand had no problems whatsoever in confirming the attempt at a deal and said that he’d done it because he found out that “one of the arguidos, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, confessed inside the PJ that he received orders from Amaral to torture Leonor”, as he explained to 24Horas. Paulo Pereira Cristóvão preferred “not to make any comment” on this situation.



I'm shocked at this....is there any way its true Paula?

I read the book of Paulo Pereira cristovão and never he said something like this

Also, Paulo Cristovão began to be Amaral´s friends as both belong to missing children Pt association!

pm wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:The inspectors’ lawyer, Pragal Colaço, didn’t deny the conversation with Aragão Correia. Leonor’s lawyer on the other hand had no problems whatsoever in confirming the attempt at a deal and said that he’d done it because he found out that “one of the arguidos, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, confessed inside the PJ that he received orders from Amaral to torture Leonor”, as he explained to 24Horas. Paulo Pereira Cristóvão preferred “not to make any comment” on this situation.



I'm shocked at this....is there any way its true Paula?

I read the book of Paulo Pereira cristovão and never he said something like this

Also, Paulo Cristovão began to be Amaral´s friends as both belong to missing children Pt association!

Well thats what I thought....I dont know if I believe he would turn his back on him now especially if its a lie!

Ambersuz wrote:

pm wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:The inspectors’ lawyer, Pragal Colaço, didn’t deny the conversation with Aragão Correia. Leonor’s lawyer on the other hand had no problems whatsoever in confirming the attempt at a deal and said that he’d done it because he found out that “one of the arguidos, Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, confessed inside the PJ that he received orders from Amaral to torture Leonor”, as he explained to 24Horas. Paulo Pereira Cristóvão preferred “not to make any comment” on this situation.



I'm shocked at this....is there any way its true Paula?

I read the book of Paulo Pereira cristovão and never he said something like this

Also, Paulo Cristovão began to be Amaral´s friends as both belong to missing children Pt association!

Well thats what I thought....I dont know if I believe he would turn his back on him now especially if its a lie!

Amber, another thing and that is on the files:

Amaral and Guilhermino were out of Joana´s case when Lisbon team began the searches! The Lisbon team went to Portimão PJ with their own Director - a women

Amaral and Guilhermino only had to help them with a room for them to work, with the contacts, with the food with all the burocratic questions but only that.
When this Lisbon team arrived, Amaral and his own team went to work on other cases

Also at the end of the day they all had a meeting but was a courtesy!

This just stinks. The McCanns seem hellbent on smearing Amaral and one wonders why. It's a pity they can't be hauled back to Portugal to be questioned on the reasons for their involvement in the Cipriano case.
They have got the time to organise a lawyer for this dreadful woman, but are too busy searching for Madeleine to return for a reconstruction.

This Tuesday, Gonçalo Amaral’s defence lawyer lamented the position that was assumed by Leonor Cipriano’s lawyer, Marcos Aragão Pinto, to try to reach a deal with the lawyer of the other four Polícia Judiciária inspectors who stand accused of torturing Joana’s mother.

The attempted deal, which resulted from a proposal to let Gonçalo Amaral ‘fall’ in exchange for dropping the accusations of torture against the other four inspectors, and was denounced to ‘Correio da Manhã’ by Carlos Anjos, the president of the PJ workers’ union, was commented by António Cabrita today.

For Gonçalo Amaral’s defence lawyer, this is “a proposal that is not ethically correct”, which results in “an attitude that demonstrates a certain dementia”, by resorting to a deal of this nature.

Marcos Aragão Pinto has refused to comment on the situation for now, merely referring to the journalists that this is a “serious accusation”.

During this morning’s session of the trial that is taking place at the Court of Faro, an accusation witness was heard, the doctor who was giving consults at the Odemira prison and who wrote the report of the supposed assault on Leonor Cipriano.

The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.

This afternoon, the court will hear the first doctor who observed Joana’s mother at the Health Centre of Odemira and a prison guard, in this case via videoconference.


source: Correio da Manhã, 04.11.2008

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by astro

The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.


Is that when she said they made her kneel on ashtrays?

I would have made her eat them!!!

Ambersuz wrote:The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.


Is that when she said they made her kneel on ashtrays?

I would have made her eat them!!!

I would have smashed them over her head - then made her eat them.

M.T.P. wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.


Is that when she said they made her kneel on ashtrays?

I would have made her eat them!!!

I would have smashed them over her head - then made her eat them.

I meant to say that but you are far better with words

Ambersuz wrote:

M.T.P. wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.


Is that when she said they made her kneel on ashtrays?

I would have made her eat them!!!

I would have smashed them over her head - then made her eat them.

I meant to say that but you are far better with words

Either that - or I hate her more than you do

M.T.P. wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:

M.T.P. wrote:

Ambersuz wrote:The medic ended up contradicting herself, as the first report that was written on the 18th of October 2004 mentioned no lesions to the knees of Joana’s mother, who didn’t complain about them either. Nevertheless, on the 29th of October, she requested an x-ray to be performed on said lesions.


Is that when she said they made her kneel on ashtrays?

I would have made her eat them!!!

I would have smashed them over her head - then made her eat them.

I meant to say that but you are far better with words

Either that - or I hate her more than you do

Now that is something i doubt very much!

Case Joana: Leonor's Lawyer called a 'goat' to Amaral's Lawyer

The former national PJ director, counsellor judge Santos Cabral, removes all responsibilities of Gonçalo Amaral in the conduction of the Joana Case, acquitting him of having omitted the denouncement of the alleged aggressions to Leonor Cipriano.

In a written statement sent to the Court of Faro, to which the CM had access, the director of the PJ in 2004 - at the time of the facts that are imputed on the five PJ inspectors accused of torture, falsification of a document, omission of denouncement and false statements - makes clear that "the operational conduct at the place was the responsibility of the director of Faro," Guilhermino Encarnação.

Following the hierarchical structure, "it was this one [referring to Guilhermino Encarnação] who was accountable for the conduction of each investigation," states in writing the former maximum Judiciary responsible and current counsellor Judge of the Supreme Court of Justice.

António Cabrita, Gonçalo Amaral's Lawyer, considers this statement important because if there are culpabilities for the non existence of denouncement, those "belong also to the director of the PJ in Faro and to the whole hierarchy." Nevertheless Aragão Correia, Leonor's lawyer, continues to point the finger at Amaral. "We just want to get a condemnation," he admitted to CM.

Yesterday, the day was also marked by the witness statements of two employees and by the Odemira prison doctor , which were "under surveillance by a third employee", who was all day in the hearings room. According to Pragal Colaço, lawyer of four [of the five] arguidos , the witnesses were "controlled because they must oblige hierarchically to what they were told to say", throwing suspicions on the prison director.

The doctor Irene Posalaky, who observed Leonor three days later, assured that "the inmate made no complaints regarding her knees," but 11 days later she [the doctor] decided to ask for an X-ray.

On the other side, the employee who took the photographs to the inmate guaranteed that the pictures were taken "during the afternoon and with daylight," contradicting Leonor, who had claimed that this had happened "at night, in a room without light."

The trial continues on the 18th.

DETAILS

Serious Accusations

Antonio Cabrita, Amaral's Lawyer, found that the Leonor's defense Lawyer had a "demented attitude" when he tried to cut a deal to 'frame' his client, like the CM advanced yesterday. Aragão Correia answered by saying that he does not respond to "goats".

A CD or more

In the process there are two groups of photographs, recorded in more than one floppy disk and on CD. Natália Silva, the employee who captured the images, guaranteed that she only took "the photographs once" and recorded them in a "floppy disk" which she then gave to the prison director.

Deleted photos

The prison employee also admitted that she erased the photographs taken to Leonor's knees "because the bruises were not visible".

Jurors raise doubts

Two of the jurors (the trial is done with a jury) had doubts after the statements given by the prison employees and asked questions.


Source: Correio da Manhã

Everything surrounding the macs is very odd.

Aragão Correia, Leonor Cipriano’s lawyer, says he possesses an email that incriminates Gonçalo Amaral, accusing him of standing behind the assault on Leonor Cipriano.

by Mário Lino

“I hold information that Mr Paulo Cristóvão sent an email to a friend of mine at the Judiciária, in which he confessed that there was torture, not from him but from Mr Gonçalo Amaral. We may get to the point where we have to present this email in court”, the lawyer states.

The lawyer refers that the alleged email was sent approximately 3 years ago by one of the inspectors (now a former inspector), Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, to a common friend who works at the Judiciária.

In said document, which Aragão said he is not ready to reveal yet, Pereira Cristóvão allegedly confirmed that four days before Leonor’s confession there were aggressions but that it was the Portimão team, led by Gonçalo Amaral, who was responsible for the assault. The latter would not only have known about the facts but was also responsible for emitting orders “for every possible method to be used in order to force a confession from Leonor”, Leonor Cipriano’s lawyer states.

Following the supposed “trump”, Aragão Correia even proposed a deal (something that is not permitted by penal law process) to the inspectors’ defense: if they confessed, stating that Gonçalo Amaral gave the order to assault Leonor Cipriano and that he eventually had participated in said aggressions, the assistant, Leonor Cipriano, would request a suspended sentence for the arguidos (despite the fact that the accusation is brought by the Public Ministry and the penalty is decided by the Court that is constituted by three judges and four jurors).

When questioned about the deal, Pragal Colaço, the inspectors’ lawyer, preferred not to comment, invoking alleged reprisals from the Laywers’ Order: “I don’t want any more disciplinary processes. I was notified by the Lawyers’ Order about an issue where I made a statement four years ago and now it appears. I don’t want any problems because I know that the Lawyers’ Order keeps persecuting me and I don’t want any further trouble”, he said.

Gonçalo Amaral’s lawyer spared no criticism on the attitude of Aragão Correia: “The defense denies its belief in a deal for the processual assassination of Amaral at the expense of the absolution of other arguidos, and repudiates any parallel trials and private investigations”, he stated in a communiqué.

“Any layperson is able to understand that a proposal to cut a deal that is made in order to condemn Dr Gonçalo Amaral means that this process is being used for purposes that are not part of the process”, he added upon exiting the trial.


source: Observatório do Algarve, 04.11.2008
By Astro

IF you hold such an email then you wouldnt need this elaborate court case? he could have just shown it and then its proof

He is trying to bluff them into confessing IMO

Melanie wrote:IF you hold such an email then you wouldnt need this elaborate court case? he could have just shown it and then its proof

He is trying to bluff them into confessing IMO

Exactly...thats what I think and why bring this out now? He would have done that on the first day to save time!