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whatsupdoc wrote:pennylane wrote:quickfingers wrote:Kate McCann is appearing on This Morning at 10.30am today to discuss her new project.
Don't think I can stomach it qf..... I will have to wait for others to watch it and report back I think.
Me neither. I'm not watching evil propaganda.
Evil propaganda from evil lips!
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This is just too ridiculous!!
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[Kate] said: “It was recently revealed that in the UK a child goes missing every three minutes. That is frankly terrifying.”
This so called 'fact' that a child goes missing every three minutes in the UK needs to be examined more closely. For a start, the statistic she's quoting is worded as follows:
In the UK, a child is reported missing every 3 minutes
http://www.missingkids.co.uk/
There's a big difference between a child being reported missing and a child going missing and what she doesn't mention is that many of them are snatched by estranged parents who have lost custody battles.
http://www.dadzclub.com/articles/features/missing-children.ashx
The studies on this issue seem to be sketchy, but the National Policing Improvement Agency Missing Persons Bureau has produced this for 2009/10
http://www.npia.police.uk/en/docs/Missing_Persons_Data_and_Analysis_2009-10.pdf
The vast majority of those people who go missing return or are found quickly, data within this report indicates that between 55 to 80 per cent of missing people return within 24 hours. Only around one per cent will remain outstanding after one year, approximately 2,000 people.
In total children and young people aged under 18 years made up 64 per cent of the missing reports. The data suggest that people in the 15-17 year old age group went missing most frequently, with this group making up 34 per cent of the missing reports (see figure 2 overleaf and the table in Appendix E). These figures could include multiple incidents relating to the same young person if they have gone missing repeatedly.
This so called 'fact' that a child goes missing every three minutes in the UK needs to be examined more closely. For a start, the statistic she's quoting is worded as follows:
In the UK, a child is reported missing every 3 minutes
http://www.missingkids.co.uk/
There's a big difference between a child being reported missing and a child going missing and what she doesn't mention is that many of them are snatched by estranged parents who have lost custody battles.
http://www.dadzclub.com/articles/features/missing-children.ashx
The studies on this issue seem to be sketchy, but the National Policing Improvement Agency Missing Persons Bureau has produced this for 2009/10
http://www.npia.police.uk/en/docs/Missing_Persons_Data_and_Analysis_2009-10.pdf
The vast majority of those people who go missing return or are found quickly, data within this report indicates that between 55 to 80 per cent of missing people return within 24 hours. Only around one per cent will remain outstanding after one year, approximately 2,000 people.
In total children and young people aged under 18 years made up 64 per cent of the missing reports. The data suggest that people in the 15-17 year old age group went missing most frequently, with this group making up 34 per cent of the missing reports (see figure 2 overleaf and the table in Appendix E). These figures could include multiple incidents relating to the same young person if they have gone missing repeatedly.
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That's what angers me wintabells, statistics are manipulated to suit whoevers agenda. It is a fact the vast majority of missing children are thankfully found.
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pennylane wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:I have felt for some time that everything about this case is so bonkers that it was a likelihood that Kate and / or Gerry would be made a patron of a charity. The day has finally come - the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvVTPXZuBo
Indeed we were right NBY!
Buckingham palace is next.... and there's not a doubt in my mind on that!
Yes Penny I think that too.
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Just saw this on Twitter
Kate McCann an ambassador for @missingpeople ? Whats next? Harold Shipman for Help The Aged?
Kate McCann an ambassador for @missingpeople ? Whats next? Harold Shipman for Help The Aged?
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dutchclogs wrote:pennylane wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:I have felt for some time that everything about this case is so bonkers that it was a likelihood that Kate and / or Gerry would be made a patron of a charity. The day has finally come - the lunatics have taken over the asylum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQvVTPXZuBo
Indeed we were right NBY!
Buckingham palace is next.... and there's not a doubt in my mind on that!
Yes Penny I think that too.
We certainly had the gruesome twosome's 'wider agenda' figured out long, long ago!
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And another one
Having Kate #mccann as an ambassador for missing people, is like having Hannibal Lecter as an ambassador for fine food!”
Having Kate #mccann as an ambassador for missing people, is like having Hannibal Lecter as an ambassador for fine food!”
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http://www.safetycops.com/missing_children.htm
Reading the definitions of 'missing' in the above, invites one to wonder how it is that Madeleine McCann can be defined as 'missing'? Is there evidence that her parents don't know her whereabouts? that she was abducted by someone? that she ran away from home? that she got lost? or told to leave? or not allowed to return home?
The only category she seems to fit into is 'throwaway' in that, according to her parents, she and her siblings, were abandoned.
Reading the definitions of 'missing' in the above, invites one to wonder how it is that Madeleine McCann can be defined as 'missing'? Is there evidence that her parents don't know her whereabouts? that she was abducted by someone? that she ran away from home? that she got lost? or told to leave? or not allowed to return home?
The only category she seems to fit into is 'throwaway' in that, according to her parents, she and her siblings, were abandoned.
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quickfingers wrote:Just saw this on Twitter
Kate McCann an ambassador for @missingpeople ? Whats next? Harold Shipman for Help The Aged?
Nice one quickfingers. I am not a Member of facebook or twitter but it would be interesting to know the reaction of facebook.!!
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quickfingers wrote:Just saw this on Twitter
Kate McCann an ambassador for @missingpeople ? Whats next? Harold Shipman for Help The Aged?
Love it.
I can see alot of new people who don't post on the McCann hashtag are aghast at this appointment.
The pros haven't woken up yet, or they are preparing for what will be an extremely busy day defending their heroes... l haven't seen one supportive post yet so the public aren't fooled.
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@missingpeople May I also suggest John Terry as your new head of race relations.
@missingpeople : why not ask Josef Fritzl to be an Ambassador too?
@missingpeople. Is Kate McCann running out of money?
I haven't seen one positive Tweet from anyone thinking its a good move yet.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40missingpeople
@missingpeople : why not ask Josef Fritzl to be an Ambassador too?
@missingpeople. Is Kate McCann running out of money?
I haven't seen one positive Tweet from anyone thinking its a good move yet.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40missingpeople
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quickfingers wrote:@missingpeople May I also suggest John Terry as your new head of race relations.
@missingpeople : why not ask Josef Fritzl to be an Ambassador too?
@missingpeople. Is Kate McCann running out of money?
I haven't seen one positive Tweet from anyone thinking its a good move yet.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/%40missingpeople
Hi quickfingers
Here is another link where tweets are appearing
http://inagist.com/all/222610684033236993/
By the way, thanks for your links.
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Justiceforallkids wrote:Christine wrote:When I first saw the article I thought it had to be a sick joke, that this would never happen. But then, nothing about them should surprise me anymore, but it still does. This is sickening. Next thing we hear is that she is the new mother Theresa.
is sending a terrible message to teenage/young mums they will think they can do a kate mcann and leave their babies alone and nothing will happen to them!!!
Most parents, whether young or not, have a natural drive to protect their children and provide the best they possibly can for them. It is unfair to demonise mothers on the basis of their age and to suggest that they're feckless and irresponsible and just looking for an excuse to neglect their offspring and get away with it. Research has shown that many young/teenage mothers were already greatly disadvantaged before they became parents and that their choice to have a child in fact elevated their self-esteem and desire to improve not only the quality of their own lives and education, but the quality of their children's. Many young women mature during their pregnancy into highly commited and dedicated mothers, where the loving bond with their child provides a sense of their own agency, the impetus to change old habits and a determination, despite the enormous economic and social challenges, to provide stability, security and happiness for their children.
http://www.lsbu.ac.uk/ahs/downloads/families/familieswp15.pdf
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Joana Morais @xklamation
@missingpeople at facebook removing and censoring all comments on their new "ambassador", Kate #McCann https://www.facebook.com/missingpeople.uk
@missingpeople at facebook removing and censoring all comments on their new "ambassador", Kate #McCann https://www.facebook.com/missingpeople.uk
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almostgothic wrote:Joana Morais @xklamation
@missingpeople at facebook removing and censoring all comments on their new "ambassador", Kate #McCann https://www.facebook.com/missingpeople.uk
Only a handful of people have clicked 'Like,' for the news and all comments that are still there are negative.
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Seems they keep removing the comments and they simply reappear. I haven't seen any positive comments anywhere which is surprising. The pros will soon wake up I guess.
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looks like they've stopped deleting comments now, I've posted one and it's still there as are many others, in fact there's only 1 positive comment on the thread
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susible wrote:looks like they've stopped deleting comments now, I've posted one and it's still there as are many others, in fact there's only 1 positive comment on the thread
Love this one susible:
Sam D Salway
Why are you deleting comments, can we not express as a nation how we feel? Didn't delete us when we were giving donations.
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You have to question the wisdom of the charity since this is supposed to be a major new initiative funded by free advertising. If the message gets lost in the controversy it is wasted.
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A reminder for the ' missing-people charity ' ~ Neglect under UK law means ;
Failure to protect from physical and emotional harm or danger.
Failure to ensure adequate supervision including the use of adequate care-takers.
Also the intent of the parent is totally irrelevant - It does not matter for the child’s well being what the intent was. There are parents who have intent to neglect, and others who have no premeditated intent. However, the outcome is still failure in their parental duty to protect the child resulting in harm.
Failure to protect from physical and emotional harm or danger.
Failure to ensure adequate supervision including the use of adequate care-takers.
Also the intent of the parent is totally irrelevant - It does not matter for the child’s well being what the intent was. There are parents who have intent to neglect, and others who have no premeditated intent. However, the outcome is still failure in their parental duty to protect the child resulting in harm.
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The McCanns seem to be driven now by News International.
Be interested to see whether there was a large donation made to Missing Persons Charity by News International in return for this favour????
Be interested to see whether there was a large donation made to Missing Persons Charity by News International in return for this favour????
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Strangely enough, they've not mentioned on their official fb page about Kate's latest achievement...their latest post is thanking a taxi driver for displaying a sticker in his cab...nothing about Kate becoming an ambassador for the Missing People charity...weird, they're normally straight off the mark with self promotion!
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As everyone else has commented I am appalled at this appointment of Kate as Ambassador of Missing Children. I certainly won't be donating.
I can't understand why they would appoint Kate other than the 'cash draw' angle. So who would benefit most from the cash? The Charity obviously and any people they employ to advertise missing children with these 'huge digital billboards'. They would also receive grants from the Government, paid for by us via taxes.
So it's really a money making outfit now plus Kate gets higher up the ladder and it becomes a type of insurance policy.
Did we expect anything else!
I can't understand why they would appoint Kate other than the 'cash draw' angle. So who would benefit most from the cash? The Charity obviously and any people they employ to advertise missing children with these 'huge digital billboards'. They would also receive grants from the Government, paid for by us via taxes.
So it's really a money making outfit now plus Kate gets higher up the ladder and it becomes a type of insurance policy.
Did we expect anything else!
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cherrylight wrote:The McCanns seem to be driven now by News International.
Be interested to see whether there was a large donation made to Missing Persons Charity by News International in return for this favour????
When's it going to end cherrylight? This news is an absolute farce.
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